Hi arsewithcalss... i havent got my hands on a Torch yet was thinking after the mistakes BB made with the Storms they would have put more effort in to this one... was it really that bad?
I think this will be my next handset
http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/overview.html i love the keyboard and i would trust HTC to build a better handset than Samsung. Unlike the Desire HD the Z is still 3.7" so it wont be to big to carry around :-)