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Originally Posted by u-Bob
People have been spreading panic about population growth for over 150 years now. (Scroogle: "Thomas Robert Malthus") the whole idea has been used and abused by some of the biggest massmurderers in history to justify their crimes.
A couple of things to take into consideration:
*The current reproduction ratio / couple is on average between 1.7 and 1.8 in Europe. That means that for every couple (2 people), 1.7 people are born. So that means the population is actually declining in Europe. That's something very common in technologically more advanced societies. (more wealth = more choices. better medical technology = no need to get 12 children as a kind of insurance because 8 of them might die before they're 12 years old)
* There's plenty of room left on this planet: If you'd move all people to Australia, Australia would still have a population density that's lower than that of present day Japan.
* Ethics anyone? What gives any one the right to determine who should live and who should die? What gives us the right to decide that an innocent baby (who has committed no crime) should die because his or her parents live in a certain geographical area and already had a child in the past? Is it because the baby might someday eat a portion of food that we want to eat, or that we think we have the right to eat? Maybe we should only let the productive members of society live and only kill those that don't contribute? maybe..... or maybe we should just think a second about what we are doing? A pregnant woman was attacked and her baby murdered and we are trying to decide under what circumstances that should be ok?
It's never OK to commit an act of aggression!
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I understand but at some point you have to draw a line. It's not about space as much as it is about food. If everyone has as many babies as they want then people are going to starve, and die. Is it ok for one person to decide for an entire society?
It's easy to say 'oh no the babies' but what would YOU do? If your population was so big and there was only so much food, then all the people decided FUCK IT, these are babies we should be able to have them. Then started having tons of babies. Would you let it happen, so that those few families who just didn't want to follow the rules 'just because' now cause the rest of the families in the entire nation to starve? There is a limited amount of food.
What would you do? Create food from nothing? Use imaginary infinite resources to feed the children? It's easy to say that aggression is wrong but when you try setting clear guidelines and people do things anyways, aggression is sometimes the only way to keep order. It's tragic that a baby loses its life but if they would let those babies live, not set examples like that then millions would starve. Is it right for millions to starve because people can just have babies anyways and nothing would happen to them?