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Old 10-22-2010, 12:33 PM  
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Blah blah blah...so easy to say all that. And so stupid. Yayyy hug some trees. Now when your entire population is starving and you don't have the money to keep up with it what do you do?
My responsibilities are to myself and my family. By developing and offering products and services other people want and are willing to pay for I provide for my family. I, in turn, buy products and services from others. I do this in such a way that I don't cause damage to other people or their property. I don't commit murder, I don't steal. How other people live their lives, how much they eat, what they eat, what they do in their bedroom, how many children they have or how they name their children etc is none of my business, not my responsibility.


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Stop beating your stupid fucking I love Earth drum and look at the FACTS.
funny since it's the whole "we have got to protect the planet at the expensive of human lives" idea that i'm against.

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IF China didn't do that then MANY MORE CHINESE WOULD DIE. Is that ok for that many people to die??
People die. It's a fact of life. People are born, people grow up, people decide how to live their lives. Some people are more creative than others, some have bad luck, some are lucky, some are born in NY, some are born in Soweto, some have an investment banker as a father, some have no father, some work hard, some party hard, some are the victims of aggression, some are extremely good at basketball, some have a huge cock, some have a tiny cock, some are sitting on a beach when a tsunami hits, some hit the jackpot in a casino, some come up with a great idea and do nothing with it, some come up with a mediocre idea and make lots of money, some invest wisely, some hide their money in a hole in the ground, some invest wisely and still lose everything,..... People are all different, situations are all different. That's the great thing about being human: the diversity.

Let people be people, let them live their lives, let them be creative,... instead of feeling all mighty and imposing your idea of what is good on to others.

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Your choices are: don't limit the population and end up with millions starving or limit the population and the population flourishes.
Again, how do you decide what the correct number of people is so the population can flourish? How do you decide? Do you have a special scientific panel for that? A special computer model?

If history teaches us one thing it's that human creativity and cooperation can only flourish when there's freedom.

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There is no: Don't limit the population, make cookies for everyone, everyone lives and is happy, population grows, more cookies, more happiness, population keeps growing, more cookies, people hold hands and sing, cookies, babies, singing.
I never claimed that justice and freedom were a guarantee for happiness. Justice and freedom merely offer the best chance for everyone to be happy. After all, every individual decides for himself what makes him happy.

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Life doesn't happen like that regardless of your thumping over and over on the 'oh it's so inhumane' drum. There are 2 choices. You have picked millions to die instead of 1. Good for you.
Again, how do you know people are going to die if 1 extra child lives?

As an individual, I'm responsible for my own actions. Like I said; I don't steal, I don't commit murder. If my neighbor grows potatoes and decides to sell them to me instead of shipping them to China and a child is hungry in China, does that make me or my neighbor responsible? No. If 2 people in japan decide to have a baby and they buy more milk than they used to because of the baby and that drives up the price of milk just a tiny bit, does that make them responsible for a milk shortage in Sudan?

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That's why YOU aren't in charge of a country because if you were MILLIONS WOULD DIE.
I'm not in charge of a country and wouldn't want to be. All I want in life is to give my family what it desires. And I'll accomplish that the way I have always done: create and sell products and services people want.
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