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Originally Posted by moeloubani
Yes thousands of years, but if you knew anything about the history of science you would know that it's only recently that people have been making decisions based on observable and measurable facts. Notice how in the past 100 years or so we've advanced so much technologically. Why do you think that is? It's because of SCIENCE. So you can pretend like science is the same as religion but quite simply it is not. It is real.
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It's not about whether or not science is like religion... It's about the fact that it's unethical to force your will or the will of a small elite (be it religious or scientific or aristocratic or financial or whatever) onto others.
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Originally Posted by moeloubani
You still haven't come up with any real plan and other than 'blah blah killing is bad' you haven't come up with any solution for when these children are born.
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1. You simply don't know if population growth will cause the kind of problems you keep referring to. Not even those all knowing scientists (btw: a real scientist always questions what he thinks he already knows). Remember those predictions about the Mexian Flu/Swine Flu that turned out to be completely off? You know the reason scientists gave for their miscalculations? Their computer models didn't take into account that humans change their behavior when the situation changes.
2. Like I said: The free market doesn't guarantee that everybody will be happy and that there won't be any problems. The free market merely offers the best chance for everybody to become happy and overcome their problems.
3. The fact that you (or any group of people) perceive something as a threat, doesn't give you the right to act unethically and commit acts of aggression. If It did, than all a person who wanted to commit an act of aggression would have to do, is come up with a good excuse.
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Originally Posted by moeloubani
Be realistic here please, lets grow up and realize that sometimes grownups have to make hard decisions for the good of all the dummies.
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Finally, there we have it. The elitist view. The idea that people are stupid and need guidance, a shepherd, a great leader, a fürer, someone to watch over them, someone who knows better, a big brother,...