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Originally Posted by moeloubani
Yes because slavery = scientific data gathered by people who studied for years to get to where they were, studying previous data as well as talking to experts in the fields of growing food and sustainability.
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So, pregnant women having to worry about being detained and their unborn children killed by lethal injection and left inside them = scientific data gathered by people who studied for years to get where they were, studying previous data as well as talking to experts in the fields of growing food and sustainability?
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Originally Posted by moeloubani
Human cooperation? You mean government? Or do you mean schooling that helped people learn as they grew up (government) or do you mean the funding put out for tons of these programs (government) when you say human cooperation? Please tell me where a tribe that didn't have a proper government excelled past one with a proper government.
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I do not consider a "proper" government one that has no respect for individual liberty and where the citizenry live in fear.
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Originally Posted by moeloubani
Let me think without constant interference from the state people would be robbing people left and right, there would be no roads to get around, there would be no internet or phones.
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Did any of us say there is no role for government at all?
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Originally Posted by moeloubani
And you guys are right, Chinese planning is so horrible, it's not like while the rest of the world was getting fucked they were still growing. Or like they're on their way to having the biggest economy in the world. Or like they got to host an Olympics in 2008 that was one of the nicest ever. No fuck that, China is such a shit hole because sometimes their people disagree with the government. What the fuck is that all about? There should be NO disagreements and everyone should be happy or something is wrong. RIGHT RIGHT?? Just like in the US where 100% of the people vote for 1 political party in order for it to win. Oh wait.....
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You seem to think if China does one thing right they do everything right.
They did everything perfect to win their bid to host the Olympics in 2008 so of course their one child policy, forced abortions of unborn babies and forced sterilization of their citizens must also be right? It's one of the most absurd things I've ever heard.
Tuck your tail between your legs and walk away kid. Because this debate is over and you lost
