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Old 10-26-2010, 07:28 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 View Post
No. Unless you show me proof that you know how to shoot amateur content your knowledge is not more than mine. I know the niche inside and out. I made a shit ton of money from knowing this, way more than my competitors made on the same traffic using purchased 'amateur' content.
Proof enough?









Of course saying this isn't right will invalidate your argument, others can see the truth. I was shooting this content for magazines, it was shot in a high res and they made it look rougher in the printing process, I just compressed them to show how easy it is to make them look bad. Shooting a range of poses clothed, half clothed and naked is easy. Especially for this niche. Getting more junk in the background is easy as well.

Magazines used to carry a "Readers Wives or Girlfriends" section, in fact in the UK Escort produced a whole magazine dedicated to this content. They paid up to $50 a picture. Most had to be rejected because of documentation or logos and company trade marks in the back ground. If sites were to advertise they pay well for legal content submitted by the subjects in the pictures they would get loads. The problem is as you point out MONEY.

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Nobody cares about labels, this isn't Playboy magazine. 99% chance they send a request for you to remove it. If not, they have to sue and win and then what? In short, if I'm selling porn the last thing I care about is someone getting mad because the girl was drinking a coke.
The last thing you care about is not relevant. It's what Coke think. But you would know about this having experience in producing this content or being a lawyer.
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You call it a problem, amateur sites call it REAL. It is what converts. My partners best page was a 50 year old fat woman that converted 1:8 raw for half a decade. He literally made $100,000 + off of her 7 or 8 images and a few sentences of text. Why? Because it looked real.
As I said the magazines Escort, Razzle, in the UK. Plus Club Confidential and Hustler in the US ran sections on amateur submitted content. They had no problem getting submitters. Because they paid well. A lot of the submitters wanted to be published and wanted the money. How much does your partner pay for content?

When we were shooting we ran a site www.ukphotoagency.com that was just for recruiting girls. I'm sure many agents and shooters today run similar sites. Having a page asking for prospective applicants to submit pictures of themselves would be easy, Giving instructions of the type of pictures that are required would be easy. No professional posing, clothing, cameras, etc. Stipulating the documents required, attaching a models release and offering $50 to $100 would get loads of content submitted by the girls themselves self shot or by a friend.

And there's your solution, offer the right money and the content will appear.

I ICQed you some links of what we were shooting, some are a bit posy, but that's easy to tone down.

Last edited by Paul Markham; 10-26-2010 at 07:37 AM..
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