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Old 10-26-2010, 08:22 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by u-Bob View Post
It's not about wanting to buy content from amateurs, it's about wanting to buy content from content producers but being unable to find content producers that deliver the required product.
And as I said it's down to money. I moved on from shooting amateur content because what I shot pad 3 times more. Can I move back? Yes, if the money's there. Can I get girls to shoo it themselves? Yes and I pointed out how it was done and can still be done, if the money's there.

If the girls produce it themselves or a content provider supplies it. It can be done. But so far the prices I've seen offered are simply not enough to dedicate the time and effort to doing a good job. The work is tagged onto the end of a shoot.

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Also not about that. It's about pictures that have a certain look and feel to them. It's about a certain style of shooting.
Shooting one specific style is not what I see in stocktrader's samples or as amateur would shoot it. People of differing skills personalities and equipment will produce different styles. All Exgf though.

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Paul, you obviously have a lot of experience creating content. a lot. But a lot of experience creating one type (or several types) of content doesn't mean you understand every kind of content or what it should look like.

A webmaster with a lot of experience promoting teen lesbian sites does not necessarily know how to promote an interracial cuckold foot fetish site.
Agreed, but this isn't such a leap. Again, just get the girls to shoot it themselves. I understand it's not about that, but getting the supply is always down to money.

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Right now, some content producers are already selling legal content aimed at the exgf market at prices people are willing to pay for legal exgf content. The problem here, is that most of the content being offered does not match the criteria set forth by the potential buyers.
Then you have to ask why isn't it right? Ultimately it comes down to money. Getting different locations, cameras, girls to do a few pictures with or without video costs money. So far all I've heard of is people tagging these shoots onto the end of a days work. From the start not the right way to shoot it, but all the buyer can afford.

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Some time ago you started a good thread about how to shoot content. About different poses and stuff like that. Those settings, poses etc are things normally not found in authentic amateur exgf content. The fact that you started that thread and people found it useful, shows that some of those things aren't even obvious to new content producers. The major problem with most of the legal exgf content that's being offered these days is that some of those professional techniques are still slipping though: professional lighting, fake backgrounds, unnatural poses and directed movements,...
True that thread wasn't aimed at the Exgf market. Some of the poses I talked about are shown in Stocktrader's samples. Standing is a pose. The problems with the pro techniques slipping through is down to the shoots being tagged onto a professional shoot. Shooter and model are tired and in a groove, no one can be bothered, etc. But still no answer to my solution of getting girls who want to be models to submit the content themselves.

Can you point out exactly what is wrong with the content please. I said it needs more junk in the background and some of the poses need more clothes on, but other than that what's wrong please.

All those sets sold for around $500 each and we still own and sell them. We sold about 10 a month, to UK and US markets. They were shot on casings so loads of medium looking girls, different locations, clothing, different levels of posing, etc. Using a couple of amateur cameras or phones is easy as well. The customers who bought the sets dictated how we shot them. We quickly learn how to shoot what was required if it's worth it.
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