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izzynew · 10-29-2010, 09:10 PM

Just thinking out loud here.

On the one hand you have people who will not pay for porn no matter how cheap it is. So no use adapting to fit their needs.

On the other hand, you have people growing up being educated that 'porn is free'. We could nip some of that in the bud. And that's where going against piracy comes in.

But then you get the attitude that all porn webmasters are either scum who don't deserve their money, or are selling crap you can get for free. And those attitudes tend to prevail in both groups.

People may say it's the way surfers have been ripped off by some porn companies, but it happens in mainstream too, but the whole mainstream industry doesn't get a bad name as a result.
No, I think the prevailing attitude is that we are scum and no one will help us but ourselves.

Then you get the price lowering argument. But if you are selling crap and people realize it's crap, there's no point in lowering the price when it's already out there on tubes or obtainable via rapidshare and co.

So one answer here is to produce good quality content. But what's the point if it gets downloaded and put on rapidshare?
And even if you sell memberships for a lower 'value' price, it can still be obtained for free.

I don't think we can apply on a broad scale the same thinking that iTunes applied to their model either, unless someone comes up with the idea of an application similar to iTunes.

Buy an iPod and you have to download iTunes to transfer your own CDs as well as download new music. OK, you can find ways around the system, but basically, if you want a piece of music quick and it's cheap, then you probably go to iTunes rather than search for the same music on rapidshare, because you have to get around the system before you can use the download on your iPod.

But would porn industry leaders want to get together to make an application like this? Especially when most of their movies are out there for free already. Would there be any point?

Perhaps selling tangible goods alongside porn is the answer.
Things like showing ads for HD TVs alongside the HD video you are showing on your website. That's as long as the video really is HD. Many are not.

Then Nautilus makes a good point, despite being shouted down. There are still many people who actually want to buy porn, not join interactivity web 2.0 type sites, or simply watch cams.
And yes, I know there's more to interactivity than this, but arguing against his ideas on that and missing his other points is not doing his comments justice.
I will say that the porn sites that do best for me are those who have an active member's area, with forums and member requests actually being answered. That's the sort of interactivity those porn buyers want.
Perhaps we should all be emphasising this a bit more?

As I said. Just thinking out loud and trying to 'adapt or die' myself

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10-29-2010, 09:10 PM
izzynew Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 174	Just thinking out loud here. On the one hand you have people who will not pay for porn no matter how cheap it is. So no use adapting to fit their needs. On the other hand, you have people growing up being educated that 'porn is free'. We could nip some of that in the bud. And that's where going against piracy comes in. But then you get the attitude that all porn webmasters are either scum who don't deserve their money, or are selling crap you can get for free. And those attitudes tend to prevail in both groups. People may say it's the way surfers have been ripped off by some porn companies, but it happens in mainstream too, but the whole mainstream industry doesn't get a bad name as a result. No, I think the prevailing attitude is that we are scum and no one will help us but ourselves. Then you get the price lowering argument. But if you are selling crap and people realize it's crap, there's no point in lowering the price when it's already out there on tubes or obtainable via rapidshare and co. So one answer here is to produce good quality content. But what's the point if it gets downloaded and put on rapidshare? And even if you sell memberships for a lower 'value' price, it can still be obtained for free. I don't think we can apply on a broad scale the same thinking that iTunes applied to their model either, unless someone comes up with the idea of an application similar to iTunes. Buy an iPod and you have to download iTunes to transfer your own CDs as well as download new music. OK, you can find ways around the system, but basically, if you want a piece of music quick and it's cheap, then you probably go to iTunes rather than search for the same music on rapidshare, because you have to get around the system before you can use the download on your iPod. But would porn industry leaders want to get together to make an application like this? Especially when most of their movies are out there for free already. Would there be any point? Perhaps selling tangible goods alongside porn is the answer. Things like showing ads for HD TVs alongside the HD video you are showing on your website. That's as long as the video really is HD. Many are not. Then Nautilus makes a good point, despite being shouted down. There are still many people who actually want to buy porn, not join interactivity web 2.0 type sites, or simply watch cams. And yes, I know there's more to interactivity than this, but arguing against his ideas on that and missing his other points is not doing his comments justice. I will say that the porn sites that do best for me are those who have an active member's area, with forums and member requests actually being answered. That's the sort of interactivity those porn buyers want. Perhaps we should all be emphasising this a bit more? As I said. Just thinking out loud and trying to 'adapt or die' myself .