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Far-L · 10-31-2010, 10:57 AM

I am sorry but I do not agree with your post. Allow me a reasonable counterpoint to address it.

The people making money in that 90's are not necessarily the big succussful companies of today. Many have been destroyed by the changing landscape or marketing, and the companies like Manwin that have blown up with success in the last few years prove that innovation still has a place, that there is still money to be made, and yes, porn hasn't died.

Every company that wants to stay in business never rests on past success because anyone that has been in business long enough knows that what worked yesterday is not necessarily going to work tomorrow. This is true of every industry.

There are plenty of great ideas but if you can't get anyone to execute on them fast enough, at the right time, then a great idea is worth less than the cup of coffee you had while brainstorming it.

As someone that has been on both sides of the equation, where people pitch ideas to us, but also where I have pitched ideas as well, you need to realize that many companies might have 5 different new things they are trying to roll out and they can't stop that momentum to pick up on your pitch - it isn't a matter of having the cash to make it happen - it is a matter of time/energy/expense in the right balance to make it happen.

My company had one of the most successful sites in the CE cash program which was one of the giants of the 90s and honestly but for reasons I cannot get into we didn't make jack diddley then compared to now. When we parted ways with CE we literally lost our entire member base and had to start from scratch. We had to reinvent and revolutionize the way we did things. Basically anything we tried that was working previously didn't work so we had to find ways, create strategies, and test theories, to grow and become profitable again. Today we make over 3 times as much profit on 1/3 of the former member numbers. Just another day at the orifice.

When we look at a company like Pink Visuals, do we see them in terms of what they did a decade ago or for what they are cutting edge on today? When we see all these old programs blow up do we think it was because they failed to adapt to changing landscapes or because they forgot to roll out new technologies and innovate in some manner?

The point is it wasn't necessarily "easy" money then anymore than it is "hard" money now. Good ideas still can still break out huge profits, but hard work will always pay off.

10-31-2010, 10:57 AM
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,075	Homegrown Video, like Pepperidge Farms, remembers I am sorry but I do not agree with your post. Allow me a reasonable counterpoint to address it. The people making money in that 90's are not necessarily the big succussful companies of today. Many have been destroyed by the changing landscape or marketing, and the companies like Manwin that have blown up with success in the last few years prove that innovation still has a place, that there is still money to be made, and yes, porn hasn't died. Every company that wants to stay in business never rests on past success because anyone that has been in business long enough knows that what worked yesterday is not necessarily going to work tomorrow. This is true of every industry. There are plenty of great ideas but if you can't get anyone to execute on them fast enough, at the right time, then a great idea is worth less than the cup of coffee you had while brainstorming it. As someone that has been on both sides of the equation, where people pitch ideas to us, but also where I have pitched ideas as well, you need to realize that many companies might have 5 different new things they are trying to roll out and they can't stop that momentum to pick up on your pitch - it isn't a matter of having the cash to make it happen - it is a matter of time/energy/expense in the right balance to make it happen. My company had one of the most successful sites in the CE cash program which was one of the giants of the 90s and honestly but for reasons I cannot get into we didn't make jack diddley then compared to now. When we parted ways with CE we literally lost our entire member base and had to start from scratch. We had to reinvent and revolutionize the way we did things. Basically anything we tried that was working previously didn't work so we had to find ways, create strategies, and test theories, to grow and become profitable again. Today we make over 3 times as much profit on 1/3 of the former member numbers. Just another day at the orifice. When we look at a company like Pink Visuals, do we see them in terms of what they did a decade ago or for what they are cutting edge on today? When we see all these old programs blow up do we think it was because they failed to adapt to changing landscapes or because they forgot to roll out new technologies and innovate in some manner? The point is it wasn't necessarily "easy" money then anymore than it is "hard" money now. Good ideas still can still break out huge profits, but hard work will always pay off. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."