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Old 11-10-2010, 12:21 PM  
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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy View Post
Back before I could get everyone's sites via site rips or tubes, and back when tours were small and you couldn't beat off looking at them, I was a porn consumer.

Not once did I join a site for value or to be part of a community. I joined it because they had something on the tour I HAD to see more of. The price was not really an issue so long as it wasn't over $30. I would, get my fix, and probably cancel BECAUSE I've yet to find a site out there who had updates that were equal to the one photo or video I joined for. At best, I would stay to see more of the girl I joined for.

Now, I can get everything any of us sell for free and without any risk to my credit card or personal data. I can beat off just looking at tours because trailers show too much and the photos are so large and explicit.

I know I'm just one type of a consumer, but there are millions of guys like me and we will never pay for porn again, no matter what you offer. Why would we?
Some excellent points. I have found, that by showing LESS on the tours - less pics, smaller sized thumbs, trailers UNDER 45 seconds even - that sales go UP.

There was this obsession over the past few years of "make everything BIG"! It's all about the thumbs, right? So let's make 'em HUGE!!!!!!! Yah, so dudes can whack it to the GIANT THUMBS? No thanks. DWB is right about that.

BUT.....

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies View Post
No offense to you DWB ole buddy. But this thinking is flawed.

This is assuming everyone can get off to the same thing. Also that anything, and everything, 'hits da spot'. It is this thinking that inhibits many in the adult industry apparently. Not everyone can get off to some cheap, poorly encoded, generic porn. Clips4Sale has shown people this (i.e. customized, personalized, tailored fresh porn).

As previously pointed out in many threads, you have people willing to PAY $9.99+ for a SINGLE 9 minute scene. There are people who repeatedly buy under this business model on a daily basis. So if a CLIP STORE can sell a SINGLE SCENE for $9.99 and you can't sell 100 or 1000 scenes, hours of content, tons of models, for $29.95 a month, then you need to dig deeper as to why you can't sell porn any longer. As you have clearly lost touch with the consumer. Their wants, and needs.

Keep in mind, not directed at you per se. Simply works better in first person.

BF is ALSO right because clip stores DO sell high-priced clips. Hmmm....so what could be the issue here then? Sell a clip for ten bucks, can't sell a Membership for thirty...hmmmm....

Memberships mean "commitment" - I am JOINING SOMETHING - and many, many people don't want that kind of commitment. HOWEVER: it's all about presentation and fantasy. The clip store says, in essence, "This is a one-of-a-kind kinky, dirty porn clip here folks - grab it!" And people do.

Paysites? "Join us and you'll get x,y,z AND updates!!! What a VALUE!" And guess what? People Join.

So it all depends on the vibe you got going, and if you know how to maximize that vibe, turn it into a fantasy for the surfer, and then close the sale.
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