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Old 11-10-2010, 03:20 PM  
Nathan
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Originally Posted by charlie g View Post
The whole fucking point of this tap dance gideon and nathan is that you PROFIT from STOLEN content. It is NOT in your BEST interest to do the RIGHT thing. You know very well an INDIVIDUAL surfer posting stolen content is not going to drag you into court for banning his account after multiple dmca complaints. There is absolutely no benefit for him to do that. BUT, it gives you perfect cover to rip, ravage and rape your competitors.
The part you do not seem to understand is that a ton of studios are uploading their own content to our tubes. A bunch of amateurs are uploading their own content to our tubes, and yes, some users claim they are from company X and they upload the companie's own content but in fact it is not true. THIS is why DMCA exists. Becuase WE should not be held accountable for users lieing to us and should not need the burden on us to prove every single submission is ok. So sure, we might know that someone DEFINATELY NOT EMPLOYED OR CONTRACTED by a studio is not allowed to uploaded content XYZ, _BUT_ if they claim they are, we can NOT "know very well". This is why we use Vobile, this is why we follow DMCA, to make it as easy as possible for studios to make sure content they never want to see there either never gets there or easily can be removed.

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Originally Posted by charlie g View Post

As I said before, I would have tons of respect for you if you said this was a business decision. We are going to stretch the laws to our benefit and try to put as many of our competitors out of the business before the laws are changed. But I guess your "attorneys" told you to deny deny deny. They probably told you to shut the fuck up too and quit posting on this board. But you won't do that because you have some sort of inner need not to be "a bad guy". Nathan/Fabian... you are the bad guy. You are the one hurting more people than you could ever imagine. Own the bad guy in you and tell us to fuck off and quit whining. You are the big dick in the room. You have the cheese bro, own it.!
I disagree, I am sorry, but I do. We help more companies than we hurt. By far. We have hundreds of studios submitting content. We license millions worth of content from studios. We are implementing Vobile. We are not target specific competitors to take them out of business, that's complete bullshit. We work with a ton of our competitors, a ton of them are good friends of ours. The people bitching around here would bitch even if I turned off the tubes, they would start bitching about moviebox giving users access to too much content for a low fee and they can not compete, they would be bitching about brazzers paying too much for ad spots so they can not compete, they would be bitching that we are not fair to affiliates for some reason. They always find something, because all they can do is bitch.

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Originally Posted by charlie g View Post

I truly believe if someone with balls and enough money could take you to court (and not bow down to suck your cock with a nice pay day settlement) it would change this industry for the better. The days of getting your employees to rip off entire member areas would be over if someone ripped you a new one publicly. But money talks and now we have some useless digital thumbprint that the people you are killing with your UNETHICAL business practices could never afford to use(and you probably profit from with some back room agreement made during your last payoff).
Nobody would win against us in court, because we ARE NOT BREAKING ANY LAWS. We also did not do any weird deals with Vobile or FSC. We pay quite a bit of money to Vobile every single month to even use their system, both for brazzers/mofos and for the tubes! Also, Vobile is NOT too expensive! It's NOT something people "could never afford to use", that's just rediculous. It adds a TINY premium on top of exclusively produced content.

Most importantly, your continous bullshit about us ripping other people's content.. WE DO NOT. We do not upload content we do not license directly, we do not rip members areas, we do not steal content. Other tubes we know very well that they do, but WE DO NOT.
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