11-20-2010, 07:18 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: South Florida
Posts: 211
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Originally Posted by Tjeezers
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Fact is, here you challenge MICKEY, you know who he is and what he does. You know just as well you had to feedback the plan with him. Seems to know who he is when it is about the money, you had no balls to tell him before and thought lets cloud the system by using a rep and tell him sort of how it is done??
GROW UP man, if you cant admit you used your surfers as an leverage for the 222 pennies you wanted for them, your to childish then to admit your wrong, how can you discus with someone who is even longer then you in the biz and pushed web cams right of the start. I have seen plenty do what you did, they all lost.
But hey your a special case right?
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You are a certified lunatic.
You are now saying that I needed to get the owner’s approval to promote LJ on my site because I was being innovative? That is totally bizarre.
I met Douglas in Las Vegas at XBIZ. I joined as an affiliate THAT NIGHT. I also joined as a CUSTOMER with $100 in credits. I did not join under my affiliate ID. I did this so I could see firsthand what LJ was all about. I wanted to see what my Members would see when they joined LJ.
For the next two weeks I communicated with Douglas on pretty much a daily basis by phone and ICQ. I didn’t think for one minute it was necessary to go ‘over his head’. Besides, I did not know who Mickey was until months later once the problems grew beyond Douglas’ ability to fix them.
You keep saying that I “leveraged” my members. Wow! I didn’t think my site had that much ‘clout’. AWE must be pretty weak if my site had enough gravitas to make one bit of difference.
Look, get past your narrow-minded cynicism for one minute. Consider the possibility that I was actually looking for a win-win-win working arrangement with AWE.
Numerous times I would say to AWE Staff and my Members that I was looking forward to a long term relationship. Even when things were looking problematic I tried to work it out because I had gone on record with my Members that LJ was here to stay.
In retrospect, that was one of the biggest mistakes I made. I had to “eat crow” when I pulled the plug publicly with AWE.
As to whether I'm a "Special Case", I was working hard to be a solid asset to AWE. They shot themselves in the foot with me. Judging from the reaction on this and other AWE threads, a lot of other people feel the same way, too.
The more you tongue-kiss their ass, the more you look like a jackass. But that’s my OPINION, not necessarily a FACT. I can tell the difference.
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