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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody
Well, forums are made for "quick judgements", aren't they? LOL If you feel that way, being against war and such, then I apologize for my comments. Lumping every ex-Military man in with all the gung-ho kill freaks this current Armed Forces seem to attract is always a bad thing, so again: apologies.
Having said the above - uh oh - half my family is Military. My dad was a Marine, four Uncles were also, etc etc. I have family in both Iraq and Asshat-istan. So I do see both sides, and here's what I know Vendzilla:
True, I don't want nations, rogue or otherwise, having the capacity to destroy using our stolen/traded for technology. Being a realist, while I wish THIS country (USA) didn't have such capabilities either I understand the horse has left the barn, or whatever. So we're stuck in this crazed world, where every country is shuffling their chess pieces, rattling their sabers, keeping the Military Industrial Complexes alive and kicking while....keeping their made-up wars in far-off little forgotten corners of the Globe. Better to make profit that way while keeping the populations of the civilized world busy/distracted with their little greed games.
It ALL sucks V.
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My clearance was very high, I was part of the weapons department on a nuclear fast attack submarine. We had enough firepower to wipe out most countries fleet with one attack. When the stakes are that high, it's that serious. The technology we had access to for the time was state of the art. The USSR had 3 times the submarines we had, but their technology was decades behind us, it was that technology race that ended the USSR because they couldn't afford to keep up.
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Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male
Soldiers die because your government sent them there, not because wikileaks.
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So your telling me that wikileaks has the OK from you to put our troops in danger?
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Originally Posted by moeloubani
It's a tough thing man because it's a fragile balance between the right to be informed what the government we appoint is doing and the duty that that government has to protect us and therefore keep some information private. And I would be on your side 100% if it was a United States that wasn't at war right now or if it was a United States that people truly felt was being run honestly and transparently. But the way things are now with the corruption, foreign political influences on national political policies and the war that was just started on false pretenses, people need to say that the government has overstepped their bounds and has become out of the people's control, and they need to know exactly why their country is in the situation it is in. If it means there are people's lives put in danger so be it - I'd rather a soldier's life be in danger that is fighting for my freedom over a soldier somewhere enforcing a policy that doesn't benefit me in any way while I'm at home clueless funding the operation.
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But who would make that call? It's simple, secret is dealt with as secret, period
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that