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Old 11-30-2010, 08:06 AM  
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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat View Post
Show me the evidence that proves there is no higher power driving things. In fact the evidence is quite astoundingly in favor of a higher power, it's called energy. Worship it as whatever you will, it is the driving force that powers everything we know. What that energy is exactly, is all assumption on both sides of the fence. In general, atheists are only slightly less ignorant and annoying in their views than religious nuts. Trust me though, the preachy nature of today's atheism is bordering on being a religion of it's own. Even when it comes down to pure "science" and "truth", most of what we know about existence is still entirely theoretic. No matter how convinced you are that being an atheist is the more "intelligent" decision, it's beliefs (yes beliefs) are still all faith. You just believe that your faith is more true than another's faith, which basically makes you just as much as a whackjob as the next when you start getting hardcore about it...

Once again for emphasis, the only reasonable stance is not knowing the unknowable, not claiming to know the unknowable, and quite frankly not giving a give a shit either way.
Theism has miracles as part of their core claims. Take the miracle of healing through prayer. There have been large, controlled studies on this that do not support this claim.

Is it therefore "faith" to doubt that the claim is true?

Atheism is a belief claim, unlike agnosticism which is claim about epistemology. That does not mean that there is not such thing as justified beliefs based on the evidence or lack thereof.

Proofs are reserved for mathematics and logic, not science. We "believe" evolution is true because of the evidence, but it may not turn out to be true. It only takes finding a rabbit fossil in the precambrian.
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