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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat
No atheist would admit to the possibility of a singular supreme being.
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Sorry to hijack your argument with babaganoosh, but this is simply neither true for the atheists I know nor is it true for the leading atheists that grab all the press. They all admit to the possibility; what they all address is the probability based on the evidence or lack thereof of the theistic claims compared to alternative explanations.
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Atheism is not the disbelief in the Christian God, or whatever other god you want to sub in him for him. It is the disbelief altogether in a singular theistic god at all.
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correct, as long as the other god you substitute is a theistic one.
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But hey, people can't stand hearing that their OPINIONS are NOT FACT. I said atheism is becoming much like a religion in the way they PREACH their BELIEFS.
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sadly, i agree with you. don't lump all atheists into this group, though.
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You fall back onto science which is always the atheist go to, but really what has science proven regarding existence? It has proven zero. It has given us some THEORIES, of which people have based more BELIEFS. Really we have absolutely squat for evidence either way.
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What would you suggest we fall back on? Do you really need the case for science made for you? Either turn off your computer, quit driving your car, heating your house, etc. or make another argument.
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Lack of evidence is not evidence in itself, so neither atheism nor theistic religions have any facts to go on here. You say not exploring facts is ignorant, yet atheists refuse to accept that a God exists, or even in the possibility that he does.
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Again, this is simply not true by definition. The "possibility" certainly exists. The possibility that angels and gremlins exists, but there has to be some justified reason to believe so. Wouldn't you agree with that?
I already gave an example of evidence that could have easily pointed to theism being the preferred explanation. It just did not turn out that way.
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This is where the preachy atheist drive, and the "My beliefs are right, your beliefs are wrong" starts kicking in, and atheists become no better than say Christians or Muslims. Case in poit, someone like yourself who waves the atheist flag, yet isn't even an actual atheist.
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I don't think being "preachy" is right either. People should assess the evidence and reach reasonable conclusions -- even if they are not definitive and subject to revision (as is everything that is based on evidence).
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Do I think these religions are wrong? Yes. Do I think that atheism is instantly the answer because I disagree with religious teachings?
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Atheism is only an answer to the the claim that theism is true. It is not, and never will be, more than that.
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It really seems to me these days that both sides of the argument are playing the same stupid foolish game trying to be the one who is right and recruit more followers for their cause. Thus having atheistic beliefs, finds itself parallel to having theistic beliefs in the stupid way the believers respent their ideas.
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This may be true, but it is only ignorant people or people with an agenda that pursue this. Atheism is a philosophical position in response to a claim and that's it.
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You're both a pain in the fucking ass to listen to after a while.
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If this was directed in part to me, I'm sorry you feel that way. Not my intention.
