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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
You're the one making claims, the onus is 110% on you. If I said I found hammer head shark smoking a crack pipe in my basement quoting voltaire, I wouldn't whine at you for proof that "there is no" hammer head shark. You can't prove a negative. That's basic logic. You make the claim, you support the claim.
Energy already has a name. What do you get from giving it another one? I call my wall socket AC power, not a higher power because that achieves nothing, adds no value or understanding. You call energy a higher power. Now what. Is carbon a higher power too? We're just borrowing that as well.. What about oxygen? Wow, there are a lot of things I can uselessly call higher powers. If I eat I will shit, thank the higher powers that the prayer of eating will be answered with the colon of shitting. The universe will end in heat death. I guess your higher power has a limited life span too.
Seriously though, I'd like to know, what do you personally get out of trying to add a label or try and squeeze in a mystical element to energy? How does it increase your understanding? Energy has been and will continue to power life for a long time.. it's something you're borrowing from the universe right now, it's bigger than you and more constant, but so what?
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What the fuck are you babbling about? Energy is energy, astounding fucking breakthrough. Comparing energy to an element like oxygen or carbon, makes no sense. An element alone powers nothing without energy. Drawing reference to your AC power supply makes no sense either. It's merely a form of energy transfer. Energy is what it is, energy. That is that. But what exactly is that? Why is it here? If energy cannot be created nor destroyed, where did it come from? When you start looking ito science's theories, things start riding on faith just about as much as claiming that energy source is a godly deity. The whole big bang. Something from nothing. Why not just say God did it? Makes about as much sense in reality.
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When it comes down to it, science can give it's little spiel on energy, but it still doesn't really know anything about it aside from how it acts and reacts. Everything we "know" about creation and the source of the universe is 100% theory.
My only reference to energy was stating that there is a power out there beyond our understanding, and maybe all that power boils down to is energy as we know it from science, which is still pretty much unexplainable. That is until we crush science as we know it and prove the first law of thermodynamics wrong, by learning to create energy out of nothing.
I'm not trying to rename energy, or cite energy as a God-figure, you're continuously pumping words into my mouth, and reading shit to fit whatever your argument is. I get nothing from trying to label a higher power, because I don't try to label a higher power. Have you read and comprehended a single fucking word I've typed? No. Why? because all you do is spout whatever bullshit you need to support your "there is no God" belief. So tell me, what do you get from so adamantly stating that there is no higher power to be named, when you don't know either?
You end your argument with "so what?" EXACTLY! So fucking what? Who cares either fucking way? There is no possibility to know. Maybe we don't have any proof of God because he's forsaken his creation and does give a fuck to pay any attention to us. Maybe there just isn't one and everything exists randomly with zero true meaning at all. No one will ever fucking know. Arguing either side of the argument makes you an idiot...