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digitaldivas · 12-01-2010, 07:57 PM

I just had this little discussion with a surfer I caught giving away my shit for free.

XXXXXXX: Hi, I got your email and I will pull the link immediately. I can't believe that many people still pay for porn, when there is so much out there for free. Everything you want, from every source you want. And part of the problem is this whole "recurring membership" scam. Or, at least that is what it feels like. I am interested in seeing some of your content, and I'd be willing to maybe pay a little if the quality of what you are offering is especially good. So why do I have to give you my credit card info, and sign up for essentially a long term arrangement with you? We all remember the horror stories of trying to cancel these things and not being able to - or not reading the fine print to see that if you don't cancel by 11:59 of a certain day that you are paying for another month anyway. Webmasters love hooking people on these recurring memberships in the hopes that you forget about it, and they can keep charging you and charging you. For what? Some porn, or some pictures of feet? No thanks.

One site I know of had a 4 day membership for around $12, and it was nonrecurring. In fact, you didn't even need a credit card (you could pay by phone or checking acct). I liked that, so I joined a few times over the year to check out what was new. But only when I wanted to, and felt like there was some value in what I was buying.

Most foot fetish sites, especially the big ones, don't even care if I post passes on pornbb. They are all rich and driving lambos.

Digitaldivas: Do you think that women just call us everyday and offer to get naked on camera for free? Why the fuck should I be giving you free shit when every shoot I do costs me 300-600 bucks?!? I'm not attacking you man, but that is just stupid. And you wonder why sites keep closing and closing. Maybe in 2-3 years when you have nothing new to jerk off to, you will "get it".

XSells are what your talking about and I agree that it's one of the things that have put the online adult industry in a rut. I was a surfer before I was a webmaster and I got fucked over too. Had to even change a credit card number once, ridiculous! CCBill, does not do that. Nor do other merchant vendors. That ended for the most part 2-3 years ago. I know of many, many people that run indexes and directories and we won't even deal with sites that do that shit.

As far as recurring, if you dig it, why not if they are updating on a regular basis. I would say that 60-70 percent of fetish sites are run out of the webmasters home. You figure in the costs to host, edit, shoot, post produce and book the model and what your really doing for the mom and pop sites are supporting them. Sometimes, it means making that car payment, not having to pawn shit for a shoot. Digging them, supporting them and allowing them to grow to continue to produce stuff that you love and cum all over yourself too. I just don't know how that is "fucking you over" nor do i understand this "self entitlement" bullshit that you "derserve" to get all of our shit for free. Torrents, passcrack sites and copyright infringment is stealing, end of story.

Sometimes, I will even join some of my sponsors that have awesome stuff, I don't really surf the member area, maybe for a couple of promo pics, but you will never know how much some of these good hearted people that do these sites appreciate the suppport and the money to continue to do what they do.

Why even call this a "community" when people have mindsets like that. I see it from both sides. People emailing me to put them on footpervert.com so that they can make the rent. wanting a spot on Digitaldivas so they can feed their kids. Sorry, but stupid shit like this really pisses me off. Most webmasters, especially niche webmasters are paycheck to paycheck at the most.

12-01-2010, 07:57 PM
digitaldivas ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Posts: 4,328	Paysites, Please Read... Did I Overreact? I just had this little discussion with a surfer I caught giving away my shit for free. XXXXXXX: Hi, I got your email and I will pull the link immediately. I can't believe that many people still pay for porn, when there is so much out there for free. Everything you want, from every source you want. And part of the problem is this whole "recurring membership" scam. Or, at least that is what it feels like. I am interested in seeing some of your content, and I'd be willing to maybe pay a little if the quality of what you are offering is especially good. So why do I have to give you my credit card info, and sign up for essentially a long term arrangement with you? We all remember the horror stories of trying to cancel these things and not being able to - or not reading the fine print to see that if you don't cancel by 11:59 of a certain day that you are paying for another month anyway. Webmasters love hooking people on these recurring memberships in the hopes that you forget about it, and they can keep charging you and charging you. For what? Some porn, or some pictures of feet? No thanks. One site I know of had a 4 day membership for around $12, and it was nonrecurring. In fact, you didn't even need a credit card (you could pay by phone or checking acct). I liked that, so I joined a few times over the year to check out what was new. But only when I wanted to, and felt like there was some value in what I was buying. Most foot fetish sites, especially the big ones, don't even care if I post passes on pornbb. They are all rich and driving lambos. Digitaldivas: Do you think that women just call us everyday and offer to get naked on camera for free? Why the fuck should I be giving you free shit when every shoot I do costs me 300-600 bucks?!? I'm not attacking you man, but that is just stupid. And you wonder why sites keep closing and closing. Maybe in 2-3 years when you have nothing new to jerk off to, you will "get it". XSells are what your talking about and I agree that it's one of the things that have put the online adult industry in a rut. I was a surfer before I was a webmaster and I got fucked over too. Had to even change a credit card number once, ridiculous! CCBill, does not do that. Nor do other merchant vendors. That ended for the most part 2-3 years ago. I know of many, many people that run indexes and directories and we won't even deal with sites that do that shit. As far as recurring, if you dig it, why not if they are updating on a regular basis. I would say that 60-70 percent of fetish sites are run out of the webmasters home. You figure in the costs to host, edit, shoot, post produce and book the model and what your really doing for the mom and pop sites are supporting them. Sometimes, it means making that car payment, not having to pawn shit for a shoot. Digging them, supporting them and allowing them to grow to continue to produce stuff that you love and cum all over yourself too. I just don't know how that is "fucking you over" nor do i understand this "self entitlement" bullshit that you "derserve" to get all of our shit for free. Torrents, passcrack sites and copyright infringment is stealing, end of story. Sometimes, I will even join some of my sponsors that have awesome stuff, I don't really surf the member area, maybe for a couple of promo pics, but you will never know how much some of these good hearted people that do these sites appreciate the suppport and the money to continue to do what they do. Why even call this a "community" when people have mindsets like that. I see it from both sides. People emailing me to put them on footpervert.com so that they can make the rent. wanting a spot on Digitaldivas so they can feed their kids. Sorry, but stupid shit like this really pisses me off. Most webmasters, especially niche webmasters are paycheck to paycheck at the most. __________________ ...