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Old 12-13-2010, 03:59 PM  
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Ok I completely disagree with you but I'd like to say that this is a brilliant post. By specifying that you believe that everyone has the right to affordable health care you have exactly stated what you believe.

I personally don't believe that anyone has the RIGHT to ANYTHING they can't afford.

If you want affordable healthcare you aren't going to get it by forcing the people with the money to pay for the people without the money... that only drives costs UP. As the system has to support everyone, regardless of the fact that they can afford it or not. It's not free! Everyone else has to bare the cost.

Additionally, you've already made your choice between utopia and freedom. You've chosen utopia. You have an ideal that you would like to accomplish and you are willing to force everyone into participating in your ideal via taxation.

I can't and won't tell you that your opinion is wrong as it's an opinion... I will however say that the idea of forcing anyone to do anything else against their will... is wrong. At least in my book, hahaha.

EDIT:

When I read:

"...even if that means that we have to give it to some people for free.."

I translate to a much more accurate statement; "....even if that means that we have to force some people into slavery (working for someone else's benefit for no compensation)"
this is actually how a debate is supposed to work, but too many people here that are not that intelligent are unable to have a constructive debate about anything, so they resort to name calling and belittling...

anyway, i think healthcare affordability is a right for americans especially considering that it is within reach..

take preventative care for example, it is a fact that in almost all cases, preventative care cuts down on major medical care because potential major issues are caught and treated earlier. preventative care has also been shown to keep the elderly healthier as they age.

i wish people had a better understanding of the costs of the non insured and understood that there tax dollars are paying for that care as we speak.

people have been sold on the fact that healthcare will be free for everyone but themselves and that they are the ones that are going to pay for it.. thats what one side wants you to believe, and thats not what ended up happening anyway..

what happened is the big corporations figured out how to force the uninsured to pay for health insurance that they most definitely can't afford..

personally, i am all for doing away with this bill and starting over or leaving things how they are today..

maybe when people see their loved ones die because medicare is bankrupt, they will decide that proper healthcare reform needs to take place..

and medicare is broke and will continue to worsen as the baby boomers use their benefits....





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