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Don't think he's interested in gouging people $60/mo for a $15 product at most, just so he can line his pockets. If you're gonna try and market this opportunity and take every "no thanks" you receive as a rude response, then you're doomed from the outset.I do sincerely apologize for my tone...
after looking at your website I was optimistic that you may come on board - you rudely shut me down with a "no thanks" so that was just a little tit for tat... no hard feelings
And remember - I do not work for the Company- I'm just an Independent rep.
Dyna Mo - if you have customers for nutritional products - I would take a very long hard look at what Im telling you... You could easily be at 100k per month in 1-2 years with One24.
60 bucks to see where the rabbit hole goes...."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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hilarious thread. what a fucking joke. admit it, you haven't made a dime from this mlm scam. pretty obvious lol.we'll miss you our friend. RIPComment
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Lets just say for the sake of discussion that your characterization is accurate (it is not, not even close) but just for fun lets see where this goes...
OK so as I have said, commission checks are going out to all reps like clockwork - that means you aren't really paying 60 bucks are you.. because your check covers all or part of it.
So if you are getting a check each month, and those checks are growing each month exponentially as the company grows, and you know that if everything continues you could be maxed out at $100,000 per month within two years... why would you ever stop buying your product?Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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It seems a bit like extortion to me.. Making me buy $60 dollars a month worth of basically bird feed or I don't get my commission check or am kicked out of the club? What if you get a new rep every month (not sure why its limited to one a month but anyway) and they dont do shit for finding new people? Even if they kept paying their 60 a month you would make what $1.50x24 per month after doing all this for 2 years? where do I sign upTop virtual hosts for under 10$? www.hostmylife.com | icq 50663030Comment
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So you were shocked about the commission of $1.50 on a $60 dollar sale being so low? OUCH! hahaha
OK let's see if you can handle some more pain, let's see if you could handle the pain of making 100k per month and let's see how realistic that goal really is...
The following break down is the payout structure for the pretty average hypothetical scenario of 3 and out.
This means that if you ONLY got 3 people over the course of your first three months - then quit getting people and never referred another person.
AND each one of those three people each brought in ONLY 3 new people then they also quit for whatever reason.
And so on for the next 18 months...
This is just an average scenario of what could happen if you did a half ass job and only got three people then quit referring.
In your 18 month you would be at an ONGOING income of $100,000 per month.
ouch right
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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Let's put this thread to rest: Everyone here (minus a few people pretending otherwise) knows that MLM = ponzi/pyramid scheme shielded by overpriced subpar product(s). This is ALWAYS how it is. Trying to convince people here that "OMFG but THIS ones is different guise!!!1" is futile. Move on to another forum.Want to crush it in mainstream with Facebook ads? Hit me up.Comment
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I will not be bumping this for the sake of annoying people. I will answer only if there are issue that I think need to be addressed. I WILL however be posting income results periodically on this thread and I firmly believe that you guys (guys with traffic) are going to be my biggest and best team members.
btw - this thread has REALLY delivered... I have 7.. count them SEVEN GFYers joining today... welcome to the team
NOTE TO MY NEW TEAM MEMBERS: I will NOT be able to issue green tickets (invites) until Dec. 24th... please email me for your questions about the waiting list and the extras my particular group is offering (training wise).Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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why is there a waiting list?Comment
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Ok, now you've completely convinced me that you are brand new to mlm and this is your first one. Stop with all of the 100k/mo talk, just makes you look silly. Once again, yes I am shocked at how low the base level commission is, most mlm's start you out at least at a 10% commission for recruiting and product movement even before all of the downline commissions kick in. They pay you a whopping 2.5% on a $60 sale.So you were shocked about the commission of $1.50 on a $60 dollar sale being so low? OUCH! hahaha
OK let's see if you can handle some more pain, let's see if you could handle the pain of making 100k per month and let's see how realistic that goal really is...
The following break down is the payout structure for the pretty average hypothetical scenario of 3 and out.
This means that if you ONLY got 3 people over the course of your first three months - then quit getting people and never referred another person.
AND each one of those three people each brought in ONLY 3 new people then they also quit for whatever reason.
And so on for the next 18 months...
This is just an average scenario of what could happen if you did a half ass job and only got three people then quit referring.
In your 18 month you would be at an ONGOING income of $100,000 per month.
ouch right
Also, all you're doing is focusing on the recruitment and commissions and have hardly even touched on the product, which further shows that this is basically just pushing money in the front door and sending it to those waiting out back with the product just being a front. You may have peaked my interest if this had been a unique product or at least a full line of products, but its just another nutritional supplement thats horribly overpriced and forced to be ordered monthly just to stay in the program."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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so even at the top level, with 78,000+ peeps below you, you still only get $1.50 per sale?Comment
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The founders have structured this thing for longevity - the maximum speed it could possibly grow is to double in size each month.
So each person gets 24 green tickets when they join, you can use one green ticket per month for 24 months (ONE 24)
IF someone fails to get a person for a given month - then their green ticket goes into a pot where reps such as myself who have many extra people on their waiting list - can then use those tickets to get the people on the list in. This happens on the 24th day of each month (they call this the "Gold Rush")
So your average Joe is just going to get one person per month and hopefully get to his 100k... BUT more motivated individuals who have many friends (or surfers) that want to join can bring them all in on the 24th of each month (provided there are extra tix avail) and they can max out at 200k per month (this is the limit)
Yes it's a little strange to get it at first - took me a bit to wrap my mind around this too...
watch the second video - "Compensation" http://gorich.124online.com/fru/pg/38608/default.aspxThose who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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This is a common concern - the "only 1.50"??? question...
Let me ask you something - do you know how much money you have if you take a penny and double it each day for a month?
about 5 mil (double that for a 31 day month)
as much as it sounds like it....the 100k per month figure is not a pipe dreamy numberThose who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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lolz at the penny a day comment, it doesn't have anything to do with getting $1.50 per sale after building up a network of 80,000.Comment
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Lol, at built for longevity, thats just spin because they can't or won't front the necessary capital to produce the amount of product needed if they opened the floodgates. By limiting signups who can place an order they have enough money coming in to slowly pay for the product while limiting the originators/owners risk if it doesn't take off."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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This is a very familiar daily thing for me - I am confronted with all these reasons why it can't or won't work...those very same people end up doing the research on the product, the integrity/reputation of the founders, and the brilliant and one of a kind payment plan... guess what - they join.
You guys can only still be hounding me in this thread for one reason... you are thinking "fuck what if it actually works".....Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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that's not at all why i am commenting in this thread.Comment
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"WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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And after doubling in size every month for say, three years, there would be over 68 billion members/recruits--ten times the size of the population on the whole planet. Lotteries are supposed to be a tax on the mathematically challenged; the same can be said for MLM "opportunities".Comment
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Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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No - I said "possible"... this is the essence of why its ingenious - people are rewarded for doing very little (getting only 1 per month) by the people who perform (getting many in the "gold rush") Also they unbalance the payments to disproportionately reward people in the first 4 months of joining - this is HUGE to motivate people to stay in.
Of course it wont double each month, there is always a high attrition rate with MLM. But One 24 is going for an ultra low attrition rate with the ease of entry and the low 60 price (and great product
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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do you know who your competition is?Comment
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Depends on what you mean by "works". Sure if you get in early and work to recruit you can earn some residual income, as you can with any mlm. What you don't seem to get is this is the same verbage every program has in the beginning, in fact I think you've hit just about every mlm cliche saying in this thread. Please stop saying this is a "one of a kind" payment plan, this is so similar to hundreds of other mlm's to come and go over the years. You're compensated for bringing new people into your downline and them buying product and you earn on levels below them, nothing revolutionary here."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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I'm fully aware of the math, in fact you don't seem to get the math. Those 11 people have to pay $60 and those underneath them still have to pay the $60 for you to earn a commission, so the % per sale stays the same. Almost all mlm's pay on downline sales many levels deep, they just pay much more than 124. You'd be better off Richie doing some more due diligence before you run off at the mouth, its extremely clear this is your first experience with mlm."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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"WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Its obvious by this thread he knows very little about the product nor really cares about it. He's simply interested in recruiting others to pay $60 for a $10 product and having them do the same to others and so on, he could care less what the product is as long as its something people have to use and reorder monthly."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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I'll do the honor of giving Richie's first income update. He's ordered 2 months of product, -$120 and brought in 2 people who ordered a month's supply, so his commission is $3. So his net earnings as of now are negative $117. Don't worry though, he should be in the plus sometime next June."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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I signed up now what? I am excitedComment
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New XTC help me get this rolling , I have to buy xmas gifts for my 4 kidsComment
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I just called my brothers and dad , I am getting them to sign up.
New XTC I should be doing good right if I get my 3 brothers and dad to sign up?Comment
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What is your tweeter?No - I said "possible"... this is the essence of why its ingenious - people are rewarded for doing very little (getting only 1 per month) by the people who perform (getting many in the "gold rush") Also they unbalance the payments to disproportionately reward people in the first 4 months of joining - this is HUGE to motivate people to stay in.
Of course it wont double each month, there is always a high attrition rate with MLM. But One 24 is going for an ultra low attrition rate with the ease of entry and the low 60 price (and great productAchmed Oil - Achmed Holdings - Achmed Guns n Ammo
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