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Originally Posted by ladida
I'm sorry, but a "world record" by definition is something someone made for the first time in the whole world, so how's this any different then any other world record in diving i don't see it. You keep bringing that up, but it's the same as any other world record.
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NO ONE has ever swam down to 100 meters and swam back up with no assistance what so ever. This is the first time. I would think that fits your definition.
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Originally Posted by ladida
I am obviously exaggerating when i say 100, but you have named 8. There are more if you include cold water diving (i don't know which association carries those), but i know there's several more disciplines again in cold waters (like polar ice water) etc.
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I am simply listing the 8 that are recognized by AIDA. According to their website...
AIDA only recognizes these 8 categories as official disciplines for world records and competitions; other kind of "similar" or "different" categories could only be considered as "demonstration disciplines", without any sanctionned world record. Men and women's records exist for each category. No other subdivision of these categories are considered (eg: lake/sea, altitude, under ice, 25/50 meter's pool, tandem-sled, etc)
http://www.aida-international.org/
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Originally Posted by ladida
So yes, those 8, plus the other few, is really not necessary, and im quite sure all of the other world record holders could brake the other's record if they focused on that. It's why they need way less variations so that we really see what a human is capable of. This way, it's just a way to be famous and make extra money.
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The 8 records (for men) are held by 4 different people. But lets look closer.
Static apnea (holding your breath)-S Mifsud
Dynamic (distance covered horizontally) with and without fins(2 records)-D Mulins
Constant Weight (swim down and up) no fins- W Trubridge (guy we are talking about)
Constant Weight with fins, Free Immersion, Variable Weight and No Limit(4)-H Nitsch
So really, one guy has a lock on all but the record we are talking about when it comes to going down and coming back up. Not sure how rich or famous he is though.
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Originally Posted by ladida
Just think about my example with runners. It's quite similar to this, because fins/weights/etc indeed do make a significant difference while you dive, but so would shoes/no shoes/spikes etc make a difference if you ran (we don't even get into weather conditions). Think how stupid olimpycs would look if you had 10 different 100m contests, then multiply that with all the other running disciplines...
It's all im trying to put across really.
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I am glad we agree that swimming with fins is different than swimming without. And since these records are all about distance (depth), I would think you could then see how it would be impossible to compare with fins vs without. Just looking at the records themselves it is obvious how much of a difference there is in meters. So a comparison to running with shoes vs without does not hold water (get it-lol) as there have been distance runners (record holders even) who have chosen to run shoeless.