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Old 01-07-2011, 11:01 AM  
WarChild
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Originally Posted by u-Bob View Post
A couple of months ago there was an interesting documentary on the History Chanel about a Jewish woman living in Nazi-Germany. To survive she pretended to be Aryan and married a Nazi officer. To get an id, she took some falsified papers to a local government office, where some bureaucrat reviewed everything. That bureaucrat had the power to decide who lived ad who died... the only thing he had to do was approve or deny an application.

After the war, she wanted to reclaim her old/true identity. She took her real documents (diploma's etc) to the same government office... and guess what. That bureaucrat still had the same job...

The state is a complex structure... Not everyone is replaced every 4 or 5 years. Not everyone needs to know everything, not everyone knows everything... If you want to control things or influence things you only need the right people in the right places....
Sure, but do you think the guy that processes paperwork in Germany sets policy? Has any real control?

See, the fundamental flaw with the argument that "the goverment" is some shadowy organization working together for a common goal on a long-term time is that it involves people. People always work for THEIR best interests, and those change with people and time. That is to say that if somebody in control 100 years ago had an secret agenda, there's no reason to believe that the people in control 100 years later would share that agenda. In fact, it's ridiculous to believe they would.

So yeah, when you start talking about goverment "programs" spanning literally decades (vaccines and fluorination for instance) as being super secret conspiracies to control and or poision the popluation, it just sounds silly. Actually, it doesn't just sound silly, it is silly.
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