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Old 01-11-2011, 05:12 AM  
kane
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Originally Posted by munki View Post
I don't think tougher gun laws would stop anything...

Case in point... If I wanted to purchase a new gun at this very moment, for whatever nefarious, or sane reasons. This is what I would have to go through both legal or illegal routes.

LEGAL

1. Wait for store to open at 10 am tomorrow.
2. Select firearm
3. Fill out paperwork
4. Have ID and background check completed.
5. Pay out purchase at retail pricing
6. Leave store
7. Return a few days later when paperwork is cleared.
8. Receive newly purchased weapon.
Or

9. Look in the paper for a local gun show. There is one just about every weekend in just about every major city.
10. Pay admission to show.
11. Select a gun from any number of the sellers.
12. Pay for gun.
13. Leave and do with it as you please.

Last I checked Arizona does not require background checks for guns sold at gun shows. Some states do and other states have limited version of checks, but Arizona is not one of them.

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ILLEGAL

1. Call local 'hook-up'
2. Call local 'hook-up' (he was asleep first call, but shit's going down, I need a piece now)
3. Drive to meet hook-up
4. Select Weapon
5. Pay far less then retail.
6. Wait for print wipe, and new tape on handle. ( hook-up was kind enough to pre shave serials)
7. Shoot and throw operation ready.
I would venture to guess that most normal, average, everyday people don't have a "hook-up" that can get them access to an illegal gun. If I needed an illegal gun tomorrow I would have no idea where to go or how to go abouts getting one.

I'm in no way saying that they should outlaw guns, but I don't have a problem with doing whatever we can to make sure someone who is unstable doesn't get one in their hands. All that said, there is no way of knowing if all the gun laws in the world would have stopped this guy.

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