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Old 01-16-2011, 02:47 AM  
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I replied to your statement about pornhub not being in the wrong to want to advertise here. That makes my comment completely relevant, and yes, it is them against those who run an honest business. Because they are cannibalizing the business that yourself and many others like you have built up over the years.



Yes, here I go again. I guess I should just shut up and let everyone steal my entire library and profit from it? I'll just stop sending DMCAs out and call it a wrap. Thanks for the sobering advice.

How do I not deal with the "complexities of the problem?" Do you personally know what I've done to protect my content and how many hours a week is dedicated to this issue? Do you know the results I'm getting because of the things I've done to protect my content? The answer is a big fat NO which means you are talking out of your ass.

It is not complex when you push all the bullshit and broshit to the side.



What the hell are you talking about?

You are resulting to some sort of personal attack now? That's pretty low class of you Far-L. I've never personally attacked you even though I disagree with you on some issues.

I don't pretend to be anything I'm not. But I'm not going to sugar coat things so it makes it easier to swallow, and I'm not going to roll over and take it up the ass and become buds with the very people who are ripping me off.



Simple question: How big of a hit has your business taken? If everything is gravy at Home Grown Video, then I have to assume you have not taken any losses at all over the past two years. Please, do tell. I'm down around 35%.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist or someone who you believe thinks they are self important to see the industry as a whole is in a SERIOUS state of decline.

DVD pirates were NOTHING compared to what is happening online. You're a smart man, I'm surprised you don't see that.

How much do you sell your movies for now? Can you even get 8 bucks for one? Honestly? If I buy 10 of a title, how much will you sell it to me for?


Look at it like this.... When the Israelis bootlegged your DVDs in New York, they still sold them to consumers. You got fucked, but the consumer still paid for a product. Now, what were once consumers have been conditioned to free porn. They are not just paying for a bootleg, they are getting it for free and are being conditioned to expect it for free. Everyone loses with this model, except the people who stole it and are sending the traffic to cam sites, courtesy of your videos. You simply can not compare the two forms of piracy. They are nowhere near the same.





Hey, I wish my competition would go away too. But that's not the point. Because after they are all gone, you/me will be next unless this full length video / free porn craze is dealt with.



No one said it makes you evil. Do you feel evil?

But siding with the very guys who have helped cause the downturn in your business, is just ridiculous. You much are smarter than that, I know you are. However, I suppose this is normal behavior from Porn Vally as they are generally the last ones to catch on to just how bad they have been raped online. Jules Jordan is still in denial about Manwin, who he distributes, running tubes with stolen content. That is the typical mindset of Porn Vally, hence all the whoreing out their DVDs to everyone, including the very people who are fucking them.



With all due respect, I don't know anything about you, yet it is you who knows I'm into ladyboys and am an ex-pat living in a tropical paradise, so you may want to rethink the "get off my jock" comment. Just sayin.
I apologize. I felt you were getting personal and if that is not the case then sorry if my "fire with fire" approach burned you up a bit. I just disagree with the analogy you used about cars being stolen off lots and don't think it accurately describes the situation except in a very opaque way.

My online is up. DVDs down. My era of getting ripped off online was some years ago and ended in a fight that I cannot get into any specifics of due to a non-disclosure... I can say that we were happy with the outcome of that issue which also dealt with rights and marks.

This business is always going to be about protecting assets, figuring out ways to monetize, and staying on top of trends. Not really different than many other businesses when you get right down to it.

No doubt, you might also have to consider that competition increased for your particular niche when others figured out how to shoot there. But you know those folks come and go. Business is up. Business is down. The real players know how to operate in times of feast or famine.

In any event, sorry, didn't mean any disrespect. I do appreciate where you are coming from and it is just fine if we don't agree on this, or handle it in different fashions. It is a much better debate regardless when the issues are discussed and no one slings shit to make a point any way.
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