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Originally Posted by alsdesign
Metaman, I really recommend you to talk to someone who has lived / worked on Middle East. My brother was in Iraq and we spoke a lot about the things there.
One thing you may not know, working in military or police gives you tremendous advantages compared to civilians in those countries. So ironically, many of those guys don't fight for the ideology, they fight just to feed their family.
People get shocked by a situation in Egypt, that's outrageous they say. Ironically, very few cared for Rwanda, just to name a example. When I was serving in army I saw some photos taken there, from first line. I can tell you , in no other war in 20-30 years I saw so much cruelty as there.
What I'm saying is we are served stories / government overthrows like small children. Don't you think it's a weird coincidence that suddenly Mubarak needs to leave suddenly? I bet it's a puppet show of either US, or Israel or some Saudi interests.
And when saying civilized people don't need police...... you might be failing to realize that it takes only one un-civilized person to cause huge damage and misery. So saying police is redundant is a naive way of thinking that all people will get along. it's not the institution itself, but the puppeteers behind who make it serve them.
I rather think people confuse police / military with interests that stand behind them
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I have 0 respect for your brother. And if he has killed anyone I consider him a murderer. Real men say no to orders when it is wrong.
The west does not want him to leave. He secures their interests in the region also with Israel. The USA (Israel puppet) funded a massive portion of the Egyptian army. Do you think they want "the people" controlling this army? I don't think so.
The rhetoric has changed all of a sudden because there is no turning back now. Someone new will be in power and they will have to be afraid of clashes and people taking the street. This will in turn effect the interest of the west. That is why they are taking middle ground now.
Police/military are not for the people. Even though the people pay for them. They are for and have always been for the social elite. There is no exception to this rule.
The vast majority of people are civilized but we are bred into a system that corrupts your very thoughts into following it. The police and military are there to make sure that the indoctrination continues to happen and the new breed of people follow the previous status quo. That status quo has and will always be controlled by a few elite.
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Originally Posted by jwerd
The State breeds uncivilized people. Simple as that. Parents that throw their kids into the indoctrination camps (public schools) and then expect them to do the parenting themselves breed these type of uncivilized people. We remove this system, this problem is mostly solved. People aren't born violent or have a need to use violence against others unless that's the way they are brought up or something happened to them that has caused them to rationalize this as "ok".
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Exactly. People fail to realize this. Even a president has NO REAL POWER. They only have power because people are indoctrinated into believing they have power.
Power is a mere illusion and the brain is so powerful that it convinces itself things are real. How do you continue on with this illusion? You use a belief system. How to you get people to believe? You "teach" them just as you pointed out.