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Originally Posted by Cyandin
Regardless, it's in poor taste.
I don't claim to be the most knowledgeable about anything so I'll just come right out and say that this still doesn't really make sense. Are you saying there are two physical sockets, each of which are actually octocores, such as the Beckton series L7555 or X7550? If so, your way of wording it is still very cryptic.
Again, trying to keep it humble here and not assume too much, but I believed the PV MD3200 series is actually a DAS unit, not a standalone server. So I emailed my Dell rep who wrote me back - verbatim:
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Das…..but two controllers on the unit that include ( raid, memory, battery,proc). 8 ports….4 redundant. The md3200i is considered an entry level San ( Iscsi version…connect through a switch and not directly to servers)
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This was in response to me asking:
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Is this a DAS or a real server? Does it take CPU's and RAM?
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Again, I'm not assuming anything here, but my feedback from my Dell rep doesn't match up with your specs+model number, and I have deployed PowerVault units before and in my experience they again were usually DAS units using external SCSI back to a main server - usually a PowerEdge.
Furthermore, 1TB NLSAS drives are still every expensive.
So, 123mbps, burstable to 10gbps, with overages at $18/mbps? Did I read that right? You're paying for a 120mbps commit (which at a very very competitive price of $2/mbps is still $240 of the $400 you mentioned), but you need to be able to burst up to 81.3 times higher than that 123mbps? At the rate you mentioned, if you actually used even half of the 10gbps you can burst up to, you would be looking at an $87,000 bandwidth bill.
In conclusion, aside from my feelings that your comments in a thread where BP was merely citing his satisfaction with us, I do not see the economics of how such a server could be offered to you for such a price. Even if the bandwidth commit of 123mbps was only in at $1/mbps, you're still looking at eating $123/month out of your $400/month claim.
Furthermore, even if that was in place, you're claiming that the remaining $277/month is getting you a server that - from what I can tell - is a DAS unit (which is still a kickass machine, but it needs a real server to piggyback onto), and whose value would likely eclipse $20k. Even with the $4300 setup you mentioned, anyone can do the math on the ROI on such a deal. This does not even get into the value of the IP space.
So, as much as it is tempting to use more colorful expression once more as to your claim, I will just pass the ball back to you by saying that your statement does not add up to me, but please feel free to correct me if I am confused here.
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This is a 100% DELL machine setup. OVH, the people selling this thing has god knows how many people using this setup, but enough to dedicate their entire infrastructure to:
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PURELY for these data storage monsters. Given that 1. they are one of (if not the biggest) European service provider, 2. they have an entire infrastructure dedicated to delivering the highest quality bandwidth to these "high paying" customers, and 3. They are 100% Dell solutions, is it possible that your Dell contact is not quite the same high level contact they have? God forbid that Dell might combine one of their Powervault units with one of their PowerEdge offereings to one of the largest internet providers in Europe for a special deal? Never been heard of.
Just because you can't believe it's real, doesn't mean it isn't. It is, I have known of their existence for 8 years, but only just moved to them when a client of mine went with them and I was responsible for their infrastructure.
US traffic to these sites don't notice any lag (the sites were moved from San Diego to Paris) and the analytics showed no extra lag at all. In fact, Google labs showed an overall 70% imporovement in site load speed, fwiw.
I am not selling this shit, just saying there are spectacular offers out there with real deals for real systems to be made. If it would make you happier that I offer it you for 1k$/mo as a reseller, then fine. I can.
As far as bandwidth goes - of course, you can end up with a frikken enormous bill, but you have to know your sites' usage to know it is impossible to spike that. Most high end servers offer 1Gbs with eg 10mbps burstable bandwidth included. What do you thing that burstable means? It means you can burst it to 1Gbs if you want - if you do that 24/7, you're also gonna end up with a frikken massive bill. duh.
To be able to send data from server to server within a private lan at 10Gbs is, believe me a frikken god send. It means you can have a load-balanced setup of low-grade servers all connected to your main storage beast over NFS and not worry about any downtime.
I managed 15 servers that got shrunk to 1 beast, 1 db, and 3 webs and I can tell you, there is no frikken comparison.
--edit - no, the config I gave with the prices is what you get. Whether you can understand the ROI logic behind it or not, it is irrelevant. A DC infrastructure is dedicated to it and actively being exploited by those that want to benefit from such a great deal.