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Jim_Gunn · 02-06-2011, 10:03 AM

Paul, you certainly had your days of success as a photographer of nude models before you retired as you are fond of reminding us, but a lot of what you are saying above is not actually accurate, at least here in the U.S.. Like you, my hands on experience producing porn pre-dates the internet age. Not as far back as yourself, but I can speak authoritatively on anything to do with producing porn movies in the US & Canada and about the actual manufacturing and distribution of porn movies in the VHS/DVD days of the 1990s and 2000s. Working at one of the biggest studios and distributorships for almost seven years and simultaneously producing hundreds of movies from amateur to pro-am and features and then evolving to become one of the most prolific producers of internet content as well in the last decade has given me a unique perspective on the changes in the last twenty years.

Two things I would like to refute:

1- There are more new American girls than ever doing porn and there is no reluctance on any of their parts about doing it because of the suppposed lack of money involved or because they fear that their families will find out. I shoot many new models each month and I never hear these things out of their mouths. All of the girls are thrilled to be able to make a few hundred dollars or a grand for a shoot or whatever it is that particular day, and thrilled to get paid and do it as many times as possible in a month or six months or year or however long their career may last. The hitch is that in my experience I find that most other producers and even agents in the biz aren't all that aggressive about recruiting new talent and are not able to come up with enough fresh faced models to satisfy demand, but this is a role I am glad to fulfill.

2- Unlike even a few years ago, say 2005, when even mediocre porn shooters and male porn talent wanting to become producers could line up all kinds of work, nowadays a producer has to have very high quality of both photos and videos, have access to new models, have a unique style and have a consistent workflow to get hired and make money. The bar has been raised a lot by the handful of major clients that are left and not many are able to meet the hurdle. I personally shoot more and better quality content of a model in a single day than I used to be capable of producing in a week years ago.

02-06-2011, 10:03 AM
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	Paul, you certainly had your days of success as a photographer of nude models before you retired as you are fond of reminding us, but a lot of what you are saying above is not actually accurate, at least here in the U.S.. Like you, my hands on experience producing porn pre-dates the internet age. Not as far back as yourself, but I can speak authoritatively on anything to do with producing porn movies in the US & Canada and about the actual manufacturing and distribution of porn movies in the VHS/DVD days of the 1990s and 2000s. Working at one of the biggest studios and distributorships for almost seven years and simultaneously producing hundreds of movies from amateur to pro-am and features and then evolving to become one of the most prolific producers of internet content as well in the last decade has given me a unique perspective on the changes in the last twenty years. Two things I would like to refute: 1- There are more new American girls than ever doing porn and there is no reluctance on any of their parts about doing it because of the suppposed lack of money involved or because they fear that their families will find out. I shoot many new models each month and I never hear these things out of their mouths. All of the girls are thrilled to be able to make a few hundred dollars or a grand for a shoot or whatever it is that particular day, and thrilled to get paid and do it as many times as possible in a month or six months or year or however long their career may last. The hitch is that in my experience I find that most other producers and even agents in the biz aren't all that aggressive about recruiting new talent and are not able to come up with enough fresh faced models to satisfy demand, but this is a role I am glad to fulfill. 2- Unlike even a few years ago, say 2005, when even mediocre porn shooters and male porn talent wanting to become producers could line up all kinds of work, nowadays a producer has to have very high quality of both photos and videos, have access to new models, have a unique style and have a consistent workflow to get hired and make money. The bar has been raised a lot by the handful of major clients that are left and not many are able to meet the hurdle. I personally shoot more and better quality content of a model in a single day than I used to be capable of producing in a week years ago. Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 02-06-2011 at 10:04 AM..