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frottage · 02-22-2011, 01:12 PM

Mark, I explained this all in my posts on the BBS, but I will repost it here:

Sorry Mark but I have to disagree with your position regarding Jasmine. I have known her for approx two years, and I have never heard her utter a disparaging word against anybody.

There are just too many uncertainties regarding the accusations made against Jasmine. As you will remember, another person had access to her computer and logged into the site regularly. I believe Jasmine when she says she was unaware what this other person was doing with her computer.

Jasmine has spoken highly of the LCN girls over the past year. She has always admired Cassie?s intellect and charm. She has criticized Daisy for some of her posts as have I, but I really like Daisy and so does Jasmine. I assure you that Jasmine is not threatened or vindictive when it comes to Daisy, Cassie or any of the other girls. For some reason, Kedra and Jasmine seemed to be ?at odds? with each other. I never understood the genesis of this and still don?t. She was told not to enter other chat rooms, yet many of the girls came to visit her. She was always accommodating to any models who entered her room. She was denied access to the BBS even after I assured you that I believed her to be a woman of character. It was only recently she was allowed to post. She has been unable to enter another model?s room for months which has been a hardship for her.

When Jasmine first started, she was as are most new models, confused by the complexities of the Mbase system. She was accused of many things during this period, and I tried to explain that she might have been mislead by myself. Jasmine when asked about her blog offered this information via Private Messenger. and not in an open forum. Without going into the intricacies of what this was all about, I thought it was an innocuous action so I did not stop her. When the accusations came to the forefront, I realized that perhaps there was some conflict of interest and told her to stop. Jasmine never meant to undermine anyone or redirect traffic.

I have been very clear to Jasmine and anybody else who works for me that there is never a reason to even indirectly try to persuade a chatter to leave one site for another. Because of her popularity in the beginning, she was inundated with requests from chatters for information regarding her web site which actually never existed. As I said , the most she was responsible for was steering people to her blog which I encouraged. Blame me not Jasmine as it was my mistake to encourage her to do this. I honestly did not see it as a conflict when I told her it was okay, but once the ramifications were pointed out to me she was told to stop and she did. In the beginning I spent considerable time in her room and not once did I see behavior such as she has been accused of.
Jasmine has been through the equivalent of ?personal hell? during the past year. She has been overwhelmed by personal and ongoing health issues. To my knowledge, all she wanted was some laughter and camaraderie to take her mind off her personal and health issues.
　
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For some reason my explanation about the free money was deleted from the BBS , but here is what posted:

Now about the notorious money aka "free money". Mark, you knew about this and also commented it was a good business practice the way I was doing it. I was trying to build up her fan base- I never told her to offer anything to anyone who belonged to LCN or any of the other sites. To increase her exposure, I had her join a lot of social networks. I told her to offer $20.00 to those who came to her blog and signed up as a new customer. It was I who authorized it, and I who encouraged her to market herself. In order to know who deserved the money, the new chatter was required to use a chat name referencing Jasmine. I did not, and still do not, see this as undermining anyone, but rather an attempt to help a model be successful. After all Mark, on the other Board you are always telling us to promote our models, and this is the exactly what I was doing;
For the most part, I never knew who the individual was who used the new name. I hardly ever logged into Jasmine?s room nor any of my model?s rooms.

Let me sum up, Jasmine is not to blame for 99% of what she is being accused of. Blame me, not her. They were innocuous mistakes that got taken out of context. I told her to respond to PMs, but I told her to NEVER proselytize is open chat, be it free or private. She was responding to questions about her blog. Also, she was told never to offer free money to any of the LCN customers or customers affiliated with LCN. For whatever reason some chatters followed her, but to my knowledge they did that on their own volition.

The Mbase system is hard for a new model to understand. The problems or transgressions Jasmine is accused of were the result of perhaps my not understanding the nuances. Blame the correct person. Nobody was trying to undermine anybody, but ?cut this woman a break.? already.

As you know Mark, I have notified you repeatedly about models who were advertising their sites in free chat. We had an ?open pipeline? to prevent this abuse, so why would I encourage one of my models to do what I knew was wrong?

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Mark, your girls have blogs and you have directly and indirectly made chatters aware of this. How is this not undermining those in your network? I have seen many times when one of your performers has steered a customer to her blog. I was actualy following your example.

As far as the free money is concerned, you commended me for trying to market Jasmine.It was I who lost money by doing this not you. I was trying to build up the retail side of my business as you have advised us all to do.

I resent your use of the term "lying". The was no subterfuge here- you were aware of everything that was taking place. As far as Ondine, please show me one of your famous 'screenshots" to demonstrate the she was stealing customers. Ondine never marketed herself much to my chagrin hence she sold very few minutes.

Stealing is a very putative term Mark, so be careful how and when you use it. I have emails where you contacted both Jasmine and Ondine undermining me, and implying I did not know how to market them. What was the intent of these emails Mark?

02-22-2011, 01:12 PM
frottage Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 68	Mark, I explained this all in my posts on the BBS, but I will repost it here: Sorry Mark but I have to disagree with your position regarding Jasmine. I have known her for approx two years, and I have never heard her utter a disparaging word against anybody. There are just too many uncertainties regarding the accusations made against Jasmine. As you will remember, another person had access to her computer and logged into the site regularly. I believe Jasmine when she says she was unaware what this other person was doing with her computer. Jasmine has spoken highly of the LCN girls over the past year. She has always admired Cassie?s intellect and charm. She has criticized Daisy for some of her posts as have I, but I really like Daisy and so does Jasmine. I assure you that Jasmine is not threatened or vindictive when it comes to Daisy, Cassie or any of the other girls. For some reason, Kedra and Jasmine seemed to be ?at odds? with each other. I never understood the genesis of this and still don?t. She was told not to enter other chat rooms, yet many of the girls came to visit her. She was always accommodating to any models who entered her room. She was denied access to the BBS even after I assured you that I believed her to be a woman of character. It was only recently she was allowed to post. She has been unable to enter another model?s room for months which has been a hardship for her. When Jasmine first started, she was as are most new models, confused by the complexities of the Mbase system. She was accused of many things during this period, and I tried to explain that she might have been mislead by myself. Jasmine when asked about her blog offered this information via Private Messenger. and not in an open forum. Without going into the intricacies of what this was all about, I thought it was an innocuous action so I did not stop her. When the accusations came to the forefront, I realized that perhaps there was some conflict of interest and told her to stop. Jasmine never meant to undermine anyone or redirect traffic. I have been very clear to Jasmine and anybody else who works for me that there is never a reason to even indirectly try to persuade a chatter to leave one site for another. Because of her popularity in the beginning, she was inundated with requests from chatters for information regarding her web site which actually never existed. As I said , the most she was responsible for was steering people to her blog which I encouraged. Blame me not Jasmine as it was my mistake to encourage her to do this. I honestly did not see it as a conflict when I told her it was okay, but once the ramifications were pointed out to me she was told to stop and she did. In the beginning I spent considerable time in her room and not once did I see behavior such as she has been accused of. Jasmine has been through the equivalent of ?personal hell? during the past year. She has been overwhelmed by personal and ongoing health issues. To my knowledge, all she wanted was some laughter and camaraderie to take her mind off her personal and health issues. 　 AND　 For some reason my explanation about the free money was deleted from the BBS , but here is what posted: Now about the notorious money aka "free money". Mark, you knew about this and also commented it was a good business practice the way I was doing it. I was trying to build up her fan base- I never told her to offer anything to anyone who belonged to LCN or any of the other sites. To increase her exposure, I had her join a lot of social networks. I told her to offer $20.00 to those who came to her blog and signed up as a new customer. It was I who authorized it, and I who encouraged her to market herself. In order to know who deserved the money, the new chatter was required to use a chat name referencing Jasmine. I did not, and still do not, see this as undermining anyone, but rather an attempt to help a model be successful. After all Mark, on the other Board you are always telling us to promote our models, and this is the exactly what I was doing; For the most part, I never knew who the individual was who used the new name. I hardly ever logged into Jasmine?s room nor any of my model?s rooms. Let me sum up, Jasmine is not to blame for 99% of what she is being accused of. Blame me, not her. They were innocuous mistakes that got taken out of context. I told her to respond to PMs, but I told her to NEVER proselytize is open chat, be it free or private. She was responding to questions about her blog. Also, she was told never to offer free money to any of the LCN customers or customers affiliated with LCN. For whatever reason some chatters followed her, but to my knowledge they did that on their own volition. The Mbase system is hard for a new model to understand. The problems or transgressions Jasmine is accused of were the result of perhaps my not understanding the nuances. Blame the correct person. Nobody was trying to undermine anybody, but ?cut this woman a break.? already. As you know Mark, I have notified you repeatedly about models who were advertising their sites in free chat. We had an ?open pipeline? to prevent this abuse, so why would I encourage one of my models to do what I knew was wrong? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++ Mark, your girls have blogs and you have directly and indirectly made chatters aware of this. How is this not undermining those in your network? I have seen many times when one of your performers has steered a customer to her blog. I was actualy following your example. As far as the free money is concerned, you commended me for trying to market Jasmine.It was I who lost money by doing this not you. I was trying to build up the retail side of my business as you have advised us all to do. I resent your use of the term "lying". The was no subterfuge here- you were aware of everything that was taking place. As far as Ondine, please show me one of your famous 'screenshots" to demonstrate the she was stealing customers. Ondine never marketed herself much to my chagrin hence she sold very few minutes. Stealing is a very putative term Mark, so be careful how and when you use it. I have emails where you contacted both Jasmine and Ondine undermining me, and implying I did not know how to market them. What was the intent of these emails Mark?