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Originally Posted by kane
And what about the women in Saudi Arabia who got gang raped by several men. The men got a slap on the wrist and she got sent to jail and was sentenced to 90 lashes because she was out in public with a man who was not a relative. Is that keeping her safe and protecting her?
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That never happened, gang rape is illegal in every country in the Middle East.
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In a trial that ended in November — in which the prosecutor asked for the death penalty for the seven men — four of the men received between one and five years in prison plus 80 to 1,000 lashes, said the woman. Three others are awaiting sentencing. Neither the defendants nor the plaintiffs retained lawyers, as is common here.
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I'm all for democracy and people setting their own rules. I just hate the idea that just because the way someone else does something makes me feel uncomfortable that I have to associate what they are doing with being wrong.
That's the way they do things there and in a lot of ways the way we do things here are disgusting to them. How can we let women be reduced to nothing more than sex objects? They would ask us. How come the United States celebrates women for their beauty but pretty much nothing else?
Of course they could work on some things. But so could we. But we (western world) would never change our ways because someone in Saudi Arabia thinks they are wrong, to us that's just silly even though we expect the same of them.
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Originally Posted by kane
No, there is no difference between why Americans or middle easterns are intolerant. I grew up in a small redneck town and for the most part everyone I ever met told me that Russians were dirty thieving communists. I also, literally, didn't speak to a black person until I was 16. Not because I was a racist, but because there were none in the town I grew up in. There were a lot of people from that town that then hated blacks and Russians yet had never really known either and had no reason other than they were taught that way. When they get out into the world many people choose to not learn for themselves and re-evaluate how they feel so they hold onto that prejudice they were taught as a child.
There is such a lack of education in many of these countries in the middle east that the only option some people have is schools that will teach them to read and write, but will also teach them to hate Americans. They, like us, are also taught by their parents. Unlike us, many of them have no outside information to help them change that opinion. So they don't really hate us because they see us as oppressive and have first had knowledge of it.They hate us because they were taught to hate us and they were told since the day they were born how evil and horrible we are and that we are to blame for any problems they have. They have no information to offset that so they have no way of knowing that it isn't correct.
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Yeah but Russians aren't dirty. The United States IS supporting the oppression of the Arab people. There is a huge difference between something based on nothing and something based on something very real. You are allowed to hate something that is out to do you harm.