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Old 02-22-2011, 09:39 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by moeloubani View Post
Well we probably disagree about what a slap on the wrist is.

1000 lashes of a whip and 5 years in jail to me is a little more than a slap on the wrist, but hey, that's subjective I guess.

I'd say most people when reading what you wrote would have guessed that the girl got all these lashes but the guys got away with it with a slap on the wrist meaning almost nothing. 1000 lashes and 5 years in a Saudi jail for rape? Not a slap on the wrist.
While it is a punishment, I personally feel rapist should be put away for life or killed.

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I'm not arguing that it doesn't happen, I was just pointing out that rape is in fact illegal in the Middle East and that people get more than a 'slap on the wrist' for doing it.

You have to remember that you aren't usually hearing the full story with these articles. For example just recently you remember that Iranian woman that was supposed to be stoned for adultery, when in reality what she was charged with was murder and killing her ex-husband.
So you are okay with the victim of the rape being lashed or thrown in prison? You are okay with being the victim of a rape being illegal?

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Kids are hit with sticks all across the world in school for breaking the rules. Only in North America is it wrong for a teacher to hit a kid, and only for the past couple of generations has it been that way.
There is a pretty big difference between spanking a kid with stick on the ass a few times or even using a paddle and lashing a kid 90 times. Also, the punishment should fit the crime, that seems extreme to me.

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That said I don't like countries led by religion and I think that Saudi Arabia could relax their laws a little. But if they have elections that are fair and free and the people vote and the vote comes back that they want to stick with their rules as they are now, it doesn't mean they are barbaric or wrong. It means they are just as right as what is happening in the United States, rules set by the people for the people. It's as simple as that, just because you guys do things one way it doesn't mean every other way is wrong.
If they have real, true and free elections and that is what they choose for themselves I would be okay with it. But they don't have such a thing. Also, I would want to know these elections are really true and fair and people weren't intimidated into voting for something they don't really want.

Plus, all of that said, I still have a feeling deep down that to live like that would be wrong. A child born into that culture does not choose it, he or she has no choice in the matter. If they are adults and choose that life for themselves, fine, but for a kid to be dropped into a world where they could get raped, the punished for it, is wrong.
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