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Old 02-23-2011, 10:41 AM  
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Originally Posted by frottage View Post
Mark,

I have demonstrated that I indeed had money in my account on payday.
This was never in question. I already told you that Your last payout due to you was "under the wire" because the Amount in your account of the payout due to you was less than "minimum payout" which is something that YOU can adjust.

I also remind you again that Tracy took a lot of time to explain to you what pay periods are, how CCBill and other processors work, and how everyone is paid.

Your license has been suspended for MULTIPLE violations of the TOS including theft. A wire is being sent to you this week but we are holding back $250.00 for the minimum reserve. Any money left over after chargebacks will be sent to you in 6 months which I also remind you, is our policy.



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Don?t get me wrong he is a clever guy, the LCN program is put together brilliantly to milk and then discard his license holders.
Paulis this is simply not true. Any business owner will tell you that the key to making money is in long-term business. It is in our best interest that you succeed.



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traffic and running a site is a learning curve, and I?m sure most people who have ever been in business of any type realize that, it does take time, unfortunately that time is just not there using Marks software.
The time it takes should have nothing to do with our software or anyone elses. It is how you use it. It is all about the content and all about traffic.

Paulus & Frottage: Did the two of you ever communicate with each other to place each other's models on your websites? Did either of you promote each other's models? Do you know what kind of traffic frontage sent to your models? Frottage do you know if his models engaged your customers?

The Mbase program does its job when you work together by hiring models and promoting each other's models as well as your own models and own sites. If you didn't do the work, you should not be blaming anyone but yourselves.




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It is simply that Mark actually reaches a stage where he decides that he likes some of there models and traffic, or he gets his calculator out and realizes that other models in his system are beginning to eat away at his own LCN demo sites models income, winning over LCN customers and eating into his turnover. So he then decides its time to re-balance things in favour of himself and his girls and his demo site.
Actually? ok! You are right. This is for the most part, true, but don't forget that each website in the network can do this. In fact, we encourage it!

Paulus, LiveCamNetwork.com spent almost $72,000 in 2010 buying chat models from other sites running our software (About $9000 was bought from you, Frottage), at an average price of $2.50 per minute (private, semi-private, voyeur).

It is in the best interest of any website to spend this kind of money on their own chat models instead. So what do we do? We train and re-train our models, and hire new ones. In my own meetings I say "girls: $6000 a month in sales is being lost to you. Work harder! Capture those sales! Blah blah blah!

Going further Paulus, we encourage this of all of our customers. This is why Frottage we tell everyone not to rely on the people who use mbase. Getting your own models, traffic and sustained sales and cash flow should be everyone's main goal.




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Marks claims that the webmaster did every thing wrong and he tried his best to help but you?re the idiot for not taking advice and that?s not right and you miss understood him or no that not true, you must be mistaken you bought cheap traffic, you didn?t buy enough traffic, you are using eastern European girls, the streaming was no good they wont talk to customers, just like in this thread, Mark prince and 2Much never fuck up
No Paulus you are not an idiot. You may have made some mistakes here and there but I always enjoyed working with you.

We have always had a problem with EU girls because as hot as they are, the language barrier and attitude of many EU girls resulted in low conversions. This is why we encouraged you to not rely on them to grow your business and encouraged you to hire North American girls instead (like we do). As far as traffic, we encourage everyone to use Google Analytics to get a better picture of when it comes to traffic sources, goals and conversions (like we do!).

And yes we have fucked up plenty - see earlier post. We learned how to pay attention to traffic after first fucking up. We learned how to hire good models after first fucking up. When we try to show you or any customer that a mistake is being made, it is because we probably already made that mistake in the past, and are trying to help you to avoid it. That is all.




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Oh and he still owes me money that he will claim he doesn?t.
I believe that you will be owed on returning holdbacks. I will ask Tracy to look into this for you.





FROTTAGE:
I asked you why you tried to steal our customers 10 times now. Your answer was:



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Originally Posted by frottage View Post
Why would you offer to renew my license with concessions to keep me if I were stealing your customers?
First, we did not renew your license (5 violations is enough). Second, why won't you answer the question? Actually it doesn't matter why, i really don't care. We caught you, and we have the logs and conversations between you and your model to prove it.



When I asked you why you allowed your models to piss on camera, you said
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This was in a private chat. If you had told me earlier ,I would have spoken to her about it.
Frottage YOU are responsible for your models's proper conduct. YOU are responsible to read the TOS of every business you deal with. YOU are responsible to make sure YOUR models know what is legal and what is not.
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