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Hi Shelly,
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Yes for the most part you are right, but the problems that it created (and could have created) were big.
- The customers were acquired by each website via normal, "legal" promotional efforts as any other webmaster would. Had we let this go on, it would have ruined what we are trying to build.
- A couple of customers and at least one "whale", legally attracted by advertising to one of our customers websites, stopped spending money on the original site, and started spending it on LCCG instead. This resulted in losses to one website and "illegal" gains to LCCG. While it remained in our network isn't the point.
That is exactly right. These customers were already spending money on his girls, via other sites.
The money flow looks like this :
Customer$ ===> Website X ===> LCCG ----> His Model.
What Frottage did was cut "website X out" so that the money flow worked like this instead:
Customer$ ====>LCCG ----> His Model.
He essentially tried to cut "affiliate" websites out of the picture, completely dismissing the value of their own traffic and the money, time and energy those site owners spent in attracting those customers in the first place.
(What is more than sad in this is that each customer he acquired cost his $20.00 each. He could have got the same results from Google Adwords and EroAdvertising for a much lower CPA, and done so without causing so many problems. )
You are correct, except that:
- She is not the only model that was caught doing this
- Steve new it was going on, because he manually added funds to each new acquisition. The basic pitch to existing customers on existing websites was "Switch to LCCG and we'll give you $20.00 free!. The models reeled them in, and he funded the accounts.
I will agree with you that this is a serious bummer. While his post wasn't that negative he knew full well what he did. Frottage's post was a continuation from 2 other forums which he has already been banned from. He is trying his best to drum up some kind of support without offering full disclosure.
Thanks for your comments, Shellee.
Mark
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I am tired of this never ending post, but since you are casting doubt on my integrity I will answer one last time. Nobody stole your customers. Most of those people were prospective customers Jasmine secured through her blogs on different social networks. Jasmine was told by me to never solicit a customer from LCN or any sister sites period. Also one of your customers was so upset after the fiasco in Montreal he came over on his own volition. A few other customer came over because they logged in her blog which of course had the name of my site. I have never and would never steal a customer.
Now for your accusations that I was cheating other site owners. Let me remind you who created the "Book A Show" concept- me. I am amazed that after 12 years in business you did not have this function. Anyway, I worked with Greg on this, and anytime someone wanted to chat with a girl, any girl on the network, this function was activated if the girl was not online. Now the customer could do two things: either continue on to the main site page or book a show with the girl. The emails came to me, and what did this low-life model stealer do Mark? I took my time and copied the request for shows, logged into your admin BBS and went to the thread I created and shared the information with all the site owners. Does that sound like I intended to steal any of your customers?
You allude to my being banned on boards- where was I ever banned on a board like this?
Now please wire me the damn money ,and get back go work on our own site. I have a new partner with whom I enjoy working and this is becoming annoying.
One last thing.I did pay new customers that Jasmin secured from the social networks $20.00. I don't see this as a mistake! To secure a customer who is already into a model for $20.00 makes sense to me, and you agreed it was good marketing when we discussed this