Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

Maybe BV does attempt to play devils advocate and bring up a fair point, but the issue still is the join form submission percentages... which I hammer non stop!

If its the tubes, if its the economy, if its the banks,if its visa, if its the freaking postman or whatever you want to blame the poor site design, poor content,saturated niche whatever then why why why why

Would you believe...
1. that other online shoppers would go to amazon,walmart, search for item...which is akin to taking a tour on adult site

2. Find that item and decide to purchase... meaning add coffee maker to shopping cart..shopping cart meaning click on our join form in adult biz

3. Then get all the way to the point where they have to submit credit card to buy coffee maker...in our world submit cc details into join form

4. Then before clicking complete purchase just say nahhhhhhhhh I don't want that coffee maker... in our world not submitting the join form

5. Who does that?? How normal is that when I am going to buy something online I don't visit "checkout page" and just cancel at last minute. ESPECIALLY IF ITS A TARGETED ITEM like in our world a specific website membership is a targeted item!

6.So thats what we are expected to believe customers go pass our tours, consider buying enough to click on join page, then get to form and say nahhh I don't want that coffee maker

I know that's a bizarre analogy but it is relative we are talking online sales behavior.

When I go online to order a book, a cd, concert tickets... I don't go all the way to where my credit card info is asked for and then say nahhhhhh nevermind. Maybe some do but not the majority.

And then we are expected to believe people like Peabody, MCfadden, myself, and others that on the same days all of our customers went to the checkout page(our join form) to get a coffee maker then said nahhhhh I don't need to buy that coffee maker today...(submission percentages all drop on same days)

Yeah I'll just come back tomorrow and buy the coffee maker than simultaneously it seems like after a sudden drop to low single digit submission percentages 0-8% it shoots back up to 30-35%

You can't explain that away on tubes,poor content,visa rules,etc. there are other possible explanations and those are what we desperately seek...sensible explanations that appeal to our logic and do not insult our intelligence!

Again on certain days the join form submission percentages drop unusually low..and backup processors seem to have flurry of sales when normally are flat.

Come ON...all you got to do is connect dots and think.