As you won't give a straight answer I will give you some marketing advice.
If you ran a real business like a site taking money or even an affiliate watching sales and payments, you would know all this. As you are a man who rights a few nice words in emails for other people you don't.
Epoch instituted a way for bounced sales from other process to go to them. They process a lot less scrubbing than CCBILL do, or so the stories go. They did this in 2007 or 2008.
So maybe their extra revenue is coming from more sales being bounced to them than were in the past.
On Alexa, which is just a very bad guide but still a guide, Epoch and CCBILL compare like this;
So Epoch has climbed in traffic and CCBILL has dropped. Does that tell you more are buying on Epoch and a lot less on CCBILL or more are buying over all?
Epoch's rise in traffic doesn't make up for CCBILL's drop in traffic.
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Epoch say one there is more, Paul says they are lying. I wondered why he thought they were lying.
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So did they tell you more is being spent online, or are you lying?
And if they said more online, did they mean more on porn online?
DamianJ = Marketing failure.