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Originally Posted by Seth Manson
There are too many idiots in this business.
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Quoted for the truth.
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Tubes site or card banging, doesnt matter. The idiots are fucking themselves along with everyone else.
It all started with tgp sites. Free sites were a great idea, just a little tease with some banners the business model worked and signup ratios were awesome. Then someone got the idea to give it away for free.
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Any businessman who thinks giving the product away for free in the amounts online porn does is not thinking. The reasons are obvious and the proof that it doesn't work is everywhere.
Yet people think it works. When today it's obvious to everyone it doesn't work for the business and only for the individual for a short while.
Doc says that some Tubes convert at 100 a day. Not thinking about where those sign ups came from. To him the free content created them. The truth is that traffic would of bought 200 times a day from TGP sites and 500 a day from a softcore advert and maybe as high as 1,000 a day from a link.
If Tube traffic converts at 1-1,000 on clicks on a banner. it takes 100,000 clicks to get 100 sign ups.
If a Tube video needs 10 views to get 1 click on a banner it takes 1 million views to get 100 sign ups.
1 million people clicking on an advert like this, and remember this is the most any site gives away in this example, what would conversions of been like?
The argument that people wouldn't be looking at online porn is baseless. People who are interested in porn will look for it. Once you erect a barrier between the buyer and the seller you have problems. If that barrier satisfies that buyer, then the need to buy is lessened.
In the early days on TGP I
knew where many of the buyers were coming from. They were magazine buyers. Because magazine sales declined from the time of TGP sites. And everyone giving away free porn whooped with joy at the decline of the magazine business. Screaming they don't understand the way Internet marketing works. They understood it perfectly well. The online marketing guys were the ones that didn't understand it.
They thought giving the product away for free was the way to sell it.
The truth is most of the people in this business in the early days didn't have a pot to piss in, didn't have a clue how to sell, create porn or even knew what porn was about. So with that as a starting point they were unable to create a product that truly sold. They had to create a product that sold to 1-100 clicks. Which was probably 1-500 porn surfers.
Now they know free porn is a killer to selling porn and the argument is "If you only give away a little bit, sales will come flowing back." Without realising, if they gave away nothing, sales would come flooding back. We would be swamped with sales, the biggest servers would be the ones for the members area, not the ones for the free porn. The guys who made a $million selling porn, would of made $50 million.
Of course the guys posting up most of the free porn as affiliates would be working offline. Which many will be soon.
This post is an indication of the thinking of online porn.
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Originally Posted by Alprazolam
goddamnit you're a moron. have you ever worked in mainstream?
i have.
porn companies treat consumers 10 times better. mainstream is Mark City.
1000000000000000 times more shady.
Welcome all!
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Mainstream isn't stupid enough to give the buyer a free alternative to buy. How do they ever get people to buy without giving it away. Do people who actually want the product go looking for it?
No that's a stupid idea.
