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Originally Posted by Robbie
No, I just look at the money we are wasting and the fact that we do not belong in other countries.
And just saying that we only need five to get the job done is not what you said earlier that it was our "obligation" as a member of NATO. Obviously it is not. We are doing it because we want to.
I'm very uneasy about all of this and have been since the Vietnam War which was also an illegal war. We haven't been in a "real" constitutionally legal war since WWII
But we've sure as hell fought and killed a lot of people in a lot of places.
I know that we are a "good" people in the United States. But our govt.? They are, and always have been a conniving power hungry group of men. And I don't think we should have people being killed all over the world so we can all feel good by saying we are a SuperPower.
Bin Laden apparently didn't get that memo and all of our SuperPower military can't find him after all these years. But we've had more of our people killed invading countries than he killed on 9-11.
If we're "Winning", it's more of a Charlie Sheen "win" than a real one. I'm of the opinion that we are creating more terrorists around the world everytime we do shit like this.
We should have stayed out of Libya's internal affairs.
IF we had stayed out...there's a good possibility that Gaddafi would have done something stupid like a massacre...then the people really might have risen up against him. A few hundred people MIGHT have been killed. That's the price you pay when you try to overthrow a govt.
But now? We've armed a bunch of "rebels", and bombed the hell out of the country. How many TRUE innocent civilians are now being killed? And no...I'm not talking about what the news media tries to perpetuate: According to CNN, it seems that EVERY rebel with a gun shooting that gets killed is an "innocent civilian". lol
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It is our obligation when called upon by NATO...with the backing of a UN mandate...but I am satisfied that we easily agreed if not instigated the involvement of NATO...and we of course backed the UN resolution...if not instigated the resolution.
It is our geo positioning of our military power that has helped to make us the largest economic power on the earth...but of course our economic power is on the decline now...and ultimately will reduce our military power.
While Congress alone has the authority to declare War...the President has the authority to engage our military where ever and when ever he sees fit to do so...with or without the permission of Congress...for a ninety day period...and then if Congress does not give him permission to continue the engagement they have the power to cut off the funding for the engagement.
One of the problems that the U.S. has is the civilian micro management of the military action when our troops are engaged. Since the end of the Second World War none of our military engagements should have lasted any longer than six months max. Not Korea...not Vietnam...not Iraq and not Afghanistan.
The policy of occupying and nation building/rebuilding is what extends the cost of the military action and is what extends the loss of life on all sides.
It appears that our civilian leaders are going to be forced to learn how to engage our military the hard way by not having the money to be involved in these long drawn out engagements that are not necessary.