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Originally Posted by Robbie
Still own and run several successful tgp's Paul. Not much traffic left on them, but they make really good sales and money with some paysites who have begun protecting their content (finally). And of course I have archives for the galleries. It adds to pages being indexed in Search Engines and bringing in sales from old galleries.
I know you won't listen to me... but please believe me that there is a HUGE difference between me running hosted galleries given to me by paysites...and tube sites running stolen full scenes.
I made sales to paysites vs. illegit tubes devaluing the entire scene to get a pre-paid ad spot for dating or cams.
You can keep trying to equate the millions of dollars of paysite sales I made with my tgp's to tube sites stealing and removing watermarks in a deliberate maneuver to NOT sell a paysite in favor of their pre-paid spots...but it's not the same thing no matter how many times you try to say it is.
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So you were giving away free content.
The problem with so many online guys is they have very low targets and expectatios.
Jake is whooping that he sold to 1 in 98 people looking at porn. He ignores all the people that looked and didn't bother to click on his banner of link. but that would make his argument less valid.
You think that giving away 100,000s of galleries is right because 1 in ??? bought a membership. None of you even think about the sales you lost. That would be too depressing. And you have no justification for it.
Yours Robbie is that the Internet bought porn to millions. Well porn was already available to millions. The difference was they were buying it and not getting it for free.
You think that making a few million dollars is great. Ignoring what you could of made by not giving it away.
Yes Tubes are worse, they are the inevitable progression down the road of giving it away for free, that you made some money at.
Yes you were running "hosted" galleries. The cost of which was in the membership.
Affiliates made far too much from the beginning, their roll should of been minimal, their pay should of been minimal. Their support should of been minimal. It wasn't and now it seems for many sites their own Tubes are cheaper.
Why support and spend a lot of money on loads of affiliates who demand everything to send surfers looking for porn? 10% rev share would of been far better. If you can't survive on 10%, that's your problem, you never created traffic. You erected a barrier between the customer and the supplier. In fact for 99% you were the supplier.
You made millions giving away free porn and now moaning someone is making more than you giving away free porn. Honestly where did you see the free porn road going to?