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Originally Posted by Robbie
How disrespectful of you Paul.
I've been in the entertainment business all my life. Longer than you have for sure. And yes, playing in bands, and entertaining LIVE crowds around the world taught me how to market and entertain "old school"...almost carnie-style.
You? You were a camera guy working for other people. I've never been disrespectful to you at all. But if you want to talk about people the "industry didn't need"...then let's be honest.
At the beginning of YOUR career you were just another young, hungry guy trying to make it. If you had not "made it" someone else would have been there doing those magazine shoots and making that same paycheck you did.
What I do isn't something that anybody with a camera and a few years can "learn".
You have no right or even any reason to be disrespectful to me in any way at all.
I hope you have a nice life. I do respect you as a photographer. I also agree that piracy and the stealing of entire members areas and studio catalogs is killing this business. I don't agree that the affiliate/sponsor business model we had before did anything but elevate the business.
I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore. And I would ask you to please not be a jackass when you address me. I have shown you that much respect. I'd like it back. I have placed you in a category with people that I don't talk to in that manner, but I won't sit here and have you talk to me like that for no reason at all.
Let's keep our debate civil with one another and let the trolls and "witty" comments from them keep them at their low level, and let's at least act like we have a little class when we talk to each other. Agreed?
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Disrespectful or not, is it true. Could you made the money you did, in porn. make without giving away free porn supplied by others?
As fr what you do and I did. There are 10,0000s of affiliates, 1,000s of site owners and only 100s of magazine shooters. The magazines didn't pay us well because 1,000s could do it.
If my saying the truth to you is disrespecting you, then should I not say it?
I rarely worked for other people. The real money was in working for myself and marketing and selling my goods.
Piracy is another form of free porn, nothing more and nothing less. Unless yours and CM abilities are so bloody marvelous surfers have to have her. Then any free porn will do. You're a guy who made money via free porn now scream at one form of free porn. ALL free porn hurt the porn industry and only the dumb think they need to give porn away to sell it.
It took the dumb Internet gurus to come up with that scheme.