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Old 05-08-2011, 06:12 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Paul are you saying that more money needs to be spent to shoot content for the paysite? To day in and day out create porn that costs a lot of money to produce with lavish sets, etc.? Or hiring old school videographers to come out and bring in "real" film cameras and shoot for a lot of money?
Don't be stupid. If that's insulting you, your post deserved it.

Yes more moeny needs to be spent inside the members area on those who pay for this merry go round than those outside the members area who don't pay. Radical thinking I know, but doesn't make it wrong.

The stupid part was lavish sets, old school shooters, real film and a lot more money.

It can be the same set, if the shooter is new or old is irrelevant. It's his skills that matter. Shooting on film is worse than stupid and if you knew the cost of film, you would know it was well beyond the means of 99.9% of porn companies. A lot of money is a thing that some will need. Mostly people need to spend more time on worrying about the quality of the porn and not the price and quantity.

Brazzers update with 3 scenes a day. Of which they already have 100s if not 1,000s of the same level. 2 scenes a day would cost no more and if their present shooters can't pull out 2 decent scenes on the money they got for 3. Then the door isn't locked. Get rid of them.

And it's not just Brazzers, other sites are exactly the same. shouting how many scenes they have, which in reality are all pretty much the same and dull after a while.

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Problem: As soon as it goes up on the site...within an hour it is stolen and then the new expensive porn is now "free" as well.

My approach has been to protect my content to the best of my ability. So far the protected stream (similar to what borked wrote about with a few twists of my own) has not been broken to be downloaded. (I do give them a small resolution version to download). And whenever we find a copy of the small rez one or an older vid that I had up that was downloadable we have RemoveYourContent dmca it down.
Let's assume with CM you have something worth protecting. 90% of this industry doesn't. Taking down one companies companies is pretty well useless. Because there are 10 other companies with the same content not bothering. If everyone raised the level the effect would be limited, if any. Most won't, can't afford it or think their content is so marvelous it is different. It's not in most cases.

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What is your solution to the fact that all this new content being shot by the "masters" that will cost a fortune to produce will almost instantly be worthless because it will be stolen and uploaded to a thousand torrents, a thousand file share sites, and a thousand Manwin tube sites?
Explained.

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My solution is plain and clear: Protect your content and then give the members personal interaction with the star. But sites like Brazzers can not do that. They hire girls to shoot a scene (just like you just did for them) and then that girl isn't going to be there in the members area to interact with the customers.
you're now singing from my song sheet. If the sold content can be stolen, sell content that can't. Like live.

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So what value does a scene shot for a lot of money have in these circumstances? None. Not until PIRACY is under control.
You must of noticed most of the companies suing pirates ain't online only and ain't nickel and dime ones. They're the companies with something worth protecting. It's pointless protecting most of online porn, it's all the bloody same.
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I would strongly advise all serious paysite owners in this thread to think about what I'm saying. I've seen it with my own eyes. And if it didn't work...I wouldn't do it, I'd find something else that did work. No theories. No guessing. Just plain out this is the only way to get sales going again for your site and to make a membership to your site have value.
No pint until they have something worth protecting.

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Your customers do NOT like to find out that the membership they pay for is useless because everyone else in the world is watching them for free...and that would include any content shot by Paul or any of the names he dropped in this thread.
We should do a lot more than this to respect our clients. Disrespect of them has led to them jumping ship.
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