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Old 05-09-2011, 02:11 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Roald View Post
Now I think about it for a sec you are correct. No idea why we have all these people here at all, brb got 20 people to send home cause this is soo easy we don't need them anymore.

Thanks for saving us a ton of money
Too late now. But you're dead right. The 1,000s of affiliates weren't needed. What was madness was paying them 50% or more for a sale and giving them every single tool they asked for.

So why is it hard to get a sale in online porn, when offline porn never found it so hard and in the beginning it was far far easier. Why has the slide gone from 1-50 to 1-5,000 on some methods?

Too many affiliates fighting for the same surfers. The options for the surfer today are endless, maybe more free sites than paid sites. The initial problem for a TGP was this. Getting the surfer to "The Hun" instead of "Shemp". So the initial aim was to have galleries that were more user friendly with more free content.

Then getting a gallery accepted by the TGP monitor. So the aim now was to have content that fitted the TGP owners needs over customers needs.

Then simply having enough affiliates submitting to these sites. So paysites were very focused on selling to affiliates over customers.

Then just the sheer number of affiliates and free sites made the job harder to get a surfer to your gallery and link.

The only way the paysites could come up with a solution was to load more free content online. so the amount of free content and BW of the servers with the free content on was more likely to far exceed the servers and BW on the members area.

Of course the over all cost of this varied from site to site. Whales didn't want 50% they demanded far far more. Sometimes 65% + or a very high PPS. So these guys sending the bulk of the traffic were getting the most money. The cost of putting a single gallery or banner on a TGP site varied, from what the top ones charged down to the partner program.

The there was the cost of supporting these guys. Reps, tools, updates, hosting, blogs, designs, banners, what ever was asked for. Then the cost of finding affiliates. A visit to a show can easily cost $5,000 per person. Rooms, food, travel, passes, etc. Without parties so people can drink free booze.

And the whole thing was like a snowball rolling downhill. The further it went, the bigger it got and the faster it went.

Until free porn was attracting 1,000 people. Getting 999 off and 1 buying. Are you going to tell me that was good business?

So far no one has, they all make stupid statements about how I'm old, past it, don't understand online marketing. Yet the achievements of you younger, clued it guys who do understand online marketing has made porn one of the attractions online and least paid for. Maybe you needed more people who didn't understand it back in 1998. Because the rest of you fucked it up good.

I understand how affiliates hate these posts. They have good reason to. 95% of them wouldn't of survived without 50% payments and every support possible. The question is.

Did we really need them. Would a porn world with 3 TGP sites. 100 affiliates meant less customers? Less free loaders without a doubt.

OK Damian. if I post a picture of my home will you not say it's not my home?

Last edited by Paul Markham; 05-09-2011 at 02:18 AM..
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