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Old 05-12-2011, 11:35 PM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by adultmobile View Post
Disclaimer: I run cam sites so I have no issue whatsoever from tubes content, which is not live or interactive, and so not stealing live chats customers, that I know of.

These content producer vs tube threads are always the biggest hit in gfy, esp if paul markham is inside, and he's always inside them.
Nathan in one line said he don't care if guys on tubes don't buy, as long as they're all in their tubes so under their control, rather than guys browsing other sites so in control of someone else.
That's true as if someone buys, they will buy something they see where they are browsing (which is tubes), if you have no traffic, sure you have no sales, is just so logic.

In April made a $10,000 flash anim champaign on pornhub + tube8 via trafficjunky, to feed a new site of mine which have the tube word in it, tubecamgirl.com , where I give free live content away, like does cam4 and myfreecams. A few guys who signed up from pornhub already spent $500+ each, so I would say tube traffic can convert on cams.
And there's those who don't purchase but keep on my site, so I control them, as Nathan said, and if they will ever buy something in future, they will from what they see in the site where they are. Note that the cam biz is quite odd to the point there is guys who see the girl put dildo in pussy and ass for free in tubecamgirl, then take her in private at $3 a minute keeping her clothed, to talk of their life story or so, this is not porn really.

So I can't say if there's money in porn, but for sure the porn controls lots of people who want to see it for free, then from there, they'll buy stuff, maybe cams or even prerecorded porn (this nathan says about brazzers ads, I can't verify as I have cams only).

My 2 euro cents
Yes I'm sure cam sites do well from Tube sites, you're not having your content used to feed another part of the industry.

I'm sure some do buy pre recorded porn from a Tube site. The question is numbers, ratios and what it's true cost is. 1 sale off a Tube site = 10 lost sales elsewhere.

When the Cam site model moves to being free, then you'll be screaming. When paysites wake up and realise they can give your product away for free or at a very low price, you'll be screaming. If paysites ever wake up.

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody View Post
Paul is from London? Explains everything. Ex-Pat Brits like Paul are generally clueless bastards. Look at them still trying to sell panties and knickers sites and bowing to German Queens as if Royalty still meant anything. It's all so clear now. :D
Thanks for the compliment. Shows what a clueless bastard can make in porn. Probably more than you will and I definitely will last longer than you will. So where does that put you?

Last edited by Paul Markham; 05-12-2011 at 11:38 PM..
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