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Originally Posted by Nathan
Paul, the fun thing is you are wrong and the industry is just consolidating...
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You're not very good at business are you?
Ratios have been worsening since day 1. The only thing that kept the truth from being clearly exposed was the extra traffic.
Customers were being ripped off, just plain stolen from to signing up to sites that did not deliver.
When the growth in traffic leveled off Tubes hit the mix and since then sales have gone down and down. Most of the customers needs are better met by Tubes than anything for sale. You never ever even questioned where the sales were really coming from. Even though it was obviously offline porn. The bottom of the barrel has been reached, there's very little new traffic of any value to be found.
Yes the traffic is consolidating, but all that's being picked up is millions of surfers who can't and won't pay for porn. Yes you're getting sales from it.
The question is what is Manwin doing to reverse the customers thinking that free porn is a better option than paying for porn?
Definitely not Brazzers or Mofos, they offer nothing new, nothing that's not been done 1,000s of times before and often better.
No doubt you will tell us you're doing great, conversions are climbing per 1,000, retention is growing and you're making millions. Without any proof it's just words on a board.
If Manwin has the money, spend it on something that will make customers sit up and beg for it, spending it on more traffic that is less likely to buy is doomed to fail. Like it has for the last 10 years, just traffic growth hid the obvious truth.
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I started Manwin, I guess that's good enough for me... Robbie, this business is a business like any other. If you want to create a very successful company then you do not only need porn people, you need professionals. You do not grasp our size, you will never understand me until you do.
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With all respect after seeing inside your sites you desperately need more porn people. For years online porn has been run by computer geeks and traffic guys. The porn, well the attitude was always "If I give enough free porn away, someone will buy."
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You need to stop comparing Manwin to you. We are one of the biggest if not the biggest company in porn...
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Bringing the industry down to your level so you can claim to be the biggest, doesn't mean you achieved much.
Seriously you're not the biggest ever porn company not by a long shot. Nor are you the richest man in porn.