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Originally Posted by DamianJ
Confuse you, then pass you by.
by the looks of things.
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I know, it never was the business, just another part.
Given that you keep pointing to it and we were very successful selling our content to other areas. What do you think we could of earned, by employing someone like you to run the marketing to affiliates and surfers side of the business?
Of course we could of changed from a more a stills production company to a video production one.
Just a rough guess and remember we could of changed to what ever you think, within the Teens, MILF, Big Tits, Lesbian or Hard Core arenas.
Just a rough guess, nothing too specific and it's open to everyone.
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Why are you the judge, you are not a photograher?
Selling to a porn magazine required a little photographic knowledge, but not much. It was taking the same set up, poses and lighting (or lack of it ) again and again just changing the girls. If you were talking about doing photos for ZOOM back in the day, that would have been something.
The very fact you compare it to wedding photographer is a give away, this is not professional photographer is the sense of skilled creative ground breaking photography that can be seen in fashion, photo exihibitions etc...Only professional in it is possible to earn a living at it.
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You really should stick to discussing topics you know something about. Because on the level of selling to magazine sets. You're clueless. Utterly clueless and don't even have the common sense to keep quiet about it.
Selling to magazines must of been tougher than anyone here could of done. Or they were too much of a bad business man to make a few phone calls. Once you had the right content, it was easy to seel. All editors had stacks of sets from amateur, rejected for a number of reasons. All amounting to "NOT GOOD ENOUGH."
Do you know what ZOOM paid for a single photo?
The picture from Mr Peabody wouldn't get anywhere near the standard of The Sun. Girl not good enough, pose plastic, sneer on her face, over exposed. As for inventive photography.
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Viv Thomas I see is on the tubes
http://www.pornhub.com/channel/vivthomas
I must say I was disappointed by how banal the clip he put up there is
blow job, fuck, come in face.... How unoriginal....
I think some original ideas well marketed could make good sales....but we need better prophets than Paul Markham.
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Viv has made more money from porn and glamor than you ever will.
www.vivthomas.com
And his bank manager will testify to that.
No online company can afford him. Or if they can they're not good enough business men to employ him.
And this shows the failing of online porn. Where offline porn was employing top shooters in house, online never did.
I spoke to many sponsors over the years and their attitude was they could buy a scene exclusive for peanuts. $300 for a solo girl scene. They ended up with sites full of junk content from guys who couldn't even sell a scene 10 times on a content store for $50.
Their sites needed tons of traffic to get a sign up, then tons more because as fast as they joined they left. Retention was appalling.
The people I spoke to like Lensman, Mayer of Mayers Money and others still working so no names. Gave me figures on doing a split on profits. The figures were mostly vague with a lot of IFS, thrown in. Or not of interest. When I told them what we earned they were amazed.
The hard truth is online porn until recently largely lived in a bubble and rarely thought outside it's little box. Let's say Mr Peabody could produce and sell 2 sets a week that sold to magazines. He would be able to put in his pocket $300,000 a year. Same goes for you, same goes for any smart ass who thinks our content isn't good enough.
$300,000 a year for work they were already doing for their paysites. Or even easier. If they were buying from a shooter good enough, they could of sold his work.
And 2 sets a week is a breeze. We were doing far more. As was Viv Thomas and he was selling DVDs.
Looking at the samples on
www.cinemaerotique.com I can see how bad you are as a photographer. Lack of imagination, preparation, controlling models and skill. Would you like to put those pictures up so I can comment on them please. Save me doing a screen grab.