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Old 05-23-2011, 11:30 PM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by DamianJ View Post
More than it cost you to hire me.
So more than $1,000 a week?

That's the problem. Every time I talked to an online porn professional I got answers like this like. No one would say something like "I can can work/team up with you and make a site that will pocket you $500,000 (for instance) a year.

Even when it came to brokering our content the answers were vague. Brokers like Ounique wouldn't buy the exclusive online resale license on our sets for $300. They would only broker. Later found out that selling them ourselves from a start up content store they were worth a lot more than $300. Same with paysites, people who wanted to do a deal, included it on their server, with them controlling it, processing and when asked "How Much?". The answers were vague.

When told we would want a contract with a 6 month review and get out clause, they went quiet. All the time they and others were telling me they would give me $300 exclusive for a set and video.

We got the picture the vast majority of these people didn't have a clue and weren't making the money they tried to make out they were.

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And, I'm sure you were successful selling your content in other areas. It's when you talk about online porn with authority I like to show people that graph. Helps bring your opinion into perspective.
And there's the problem in a nutshell. And your refusal to look at our bigger picture illustrates your blinkered thinking and your real marketing skills.

You keep showing some the graph for something we never really worked at. Yet you seem to realise why. We made a LOT of money selling to offline porn. So much we never really went the route of nearly all other major content providers, to shooting custom. We didn't need to, didn't have the time and couldn't be bothered for the money offered. You must know that.

The online store was phenomenally successful. Proof in the seeing, we're still open after 3 years of effectively closing the business. We stopped shooting mid July 2008. Yet sold some memberships and a content store order last night. In anyones book that, not bad. And I finished my recent jigsaw.

So we had offline sales and online sales. Take a stab at what they were worth.

Then ask yourself, would you give that up to risk losing it to open a paysite?

Let's put it this way, would you give up your job of writing emails, to take up shooting content?

We did it in 2005 and everyone said, go exclusive. Well would you advise shutting down the content stores to risk a paysite being successful. And starting with 40 exclusive sets and never releasing more to the stores?

I always thought shooting video of girls who don't speak English, wasn't going to work that well. So it might of meant coming back to the UK, giving up the magazine side of the business to open a risky paysite.
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