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Originally Posted by Robbie
The only "logic" here in 2011 is that if you shoot a hot amateur scene with a girl who embodies sexuality and fucks with wild abandon...more folks are gonna enjoy that than a big budget "Pirates" type "movie".
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I said reply using logic.
Logic tells me that someone spending what it cost to make a "Pirates" porn movie is making more money than someone filming "a hot amateur scene". Top quality offline porn isn't a one off, it's a continual flow. They spend lots of money producing their product, not a few hundred dollars like online does. Even today some outspend online per scene.
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And the minute it is released it will be STOLEN and put on a thousand different sites. Good luck trying to DMCA all of that down...and oh by the way...after you send the DMCA it can be 2 weeks or more before some of them will get around to taking it down.
And then when it FINALLY comes down and your expensive scene has already been seen and downloaded for free by millions of ex-potential customers...it will just get uploaded again a few minutes later and you get to start all over again.
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And they suffer the same problem as everyone else does.
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That is the unfortunate reality we live with today as producers of content. Until new copyright laws are passed that are up to date with the internet...it's just not gonna do you much good to create the content you speak of, UNLESS you can protect your members area (which can be done and is being done)
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Yes sit on your hands until they decide to change the laws in every country in the World.
plsureking is dead right. The guys downloading pirated porn aren't your market. If they're effecting your sales then you're in the wrong market. Piracy has changed the game yet again. The people downloading pirated content if stopped will move to legal Tubes and we would still be fucked. Adapt to it or die.
The beauties of a paysite aren't being exploited. Maybe because they are strapped after paying out the massive amounts for traffic required today, maybe they're run by people who don't get porn or the porn buyers. What ever the reasons Paysites have adapted little in the last 15 years accept for technology which they just used.
15 years ago they were just a place to download pictures and very small compressed video. As speeds picked up and hosting got cheaper. Videos took over and pictures got bigger and less of a selling point. Then HD came in and everyone jumped on that band wagon. All the changes were from outside the industry as far as the product was concerned.
Yet the business changed 180 degrees. Free porn, legal or not, became a big factor. A factor you made a lot of money from Robbie. Piracy became a factor. And the biggest problem was the saturation of cheap porn. The thinking was anyone with a digital camera could shoot porn. Anyone with an elementary knowledge of building a website could put up a porn site. And if you threw enough traffic at it someone would by.
And less and less per 1,000 did buy. Piracy isn't to blame for that. People thinking TGPs would bring in millions of customers and make millions were the problem. They didn't think it through for very long. Without TGPs, 10,000,000s of customers would of bought and billions would of been made.
The solution is simple, executing it, is the hard part. Make the product more appealing to customers Make it fit their needs better.
Cheaper, shorter join periods, live shows, interaction between customer and models, scenes that aren't just another girl on another bed shot by a guy who can't earn more elsewhere and honest.
The reason sales are falling is simple. The product isn't good enough. Adapt or die.
Even Manwin will suffer if they continue down the same route online porn has been on for 15 years. It will just take longer.