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Originally Posted by Due
Not really no. I'm not trying to outlaw P2P / file sharing / time shiting / backup cloud or whatever new word you decide to call it. Legitimate usage I have no issues with legal use of P2P. It's not at all compare-able with the internet as a whole.
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yes you are you originally said
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Originally Posted by Due
The problem is usually that when you download it you share it hence you serve it to people who may not have paid for this tv show.
That's distribution of copyrighted material. Buying a TV show doesn't give you the right to share it.
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your arguement was because i give pieces of content to 1/2% of the population which doesn't have at least 1 tv i should have a right to use torrents as a timeshifting device.
even i have no control or even knowledge of which people in the swarm is infringing
instead of going after the individual without a right, your saying you should take away my right to timeshift using the swarm.
even though i bought the show
even though sharing (tape trading) was covered by the original right when it was established
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If infringements happens because of something you do your responsible.
By your logic we should outlaw roads because people are speeding on them.
P.S. I love how you say "not JUST infringement"
Cloud may not by it's nature be illegal however it can be used for illegal purposes which doesn't actually make the cloud illegal just the action itself.
Again you can drive a car but it's neither the cars or the roads fault if you commit a crime while driving.
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idiot that your arguement not mine
i want you to only go after the speeder/ the .5% of the population which didn't buy the tv shows
leave the 99.5% of the people who did alone because their actions are nothing but the shit that the original timeshifting right allowed.
you couldn't speed if cars didn't go that fast
you couldn't speed if roads didn't exist
as you said if infringement happens because of something you do your responsible
my arguement is the exact opposite
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In Denmark they managed to tariff CDs, this specific part I have not looked into, however my common sense tells me that since the CD's was tariffed the purpose of the cd's was to distribute the copies hence made it legal. If they are not tariffed it means the purpose of the CDs was not to distribute copies.
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moron the tarriff wasn't a negotiation made to grant us timeshifting rights
the right was granted by the court
they mpaa documented all the rights that court ruling gave the average consumer
and bitched that unless the government stepped in to change the law the industry of broadcast tv would die.
your trying to add conditions that courts already ruled out
conditions that the testimony proves the mpaa knew were granted (becuase they complained those "rights" would kill the indistry)
the fact that the congress told the mpaa to fuck off, doesn't invalidate any of those court granted rights.