Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Twistys as well, I can now talk about them as they are owned by Manwin. Shap claims he was moving into the upper end of the market. Well the truth is different. His members area is full of content that would never get into the better end. Well if a site wants to compete with in the upper end, they need a shooter who can produce upper end content. The members area wasn't. The result is conversion and retention rates that suck. Some of their shooter were good single shot shooters. They can produce a few good shots, producing a set isn't so easy. You need a Micheal Ancher, Viv Thomas, Steve Hicks level shooter to play in that field.