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Old 07-08-2011, 10:39 PM  
Anthony
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Originally Posted by WarChild View Post
It's not a false red herring because despite being able to "stand your ground", you still have unbelievably high crime rates. At very least, it's simply not working.

Twice in the past few years in Florida? Really? With all due respect, I think you should start with research right at home in Florida.
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Originally Posted by Anthony
Last I checked, Stand your ground was used twice in the past few years in Florida.
I don't live in Florida anymore, haven't since 2009, when I did, the Stand Your Ground law was used twice. Read my post.

It is a red herring as you have nothing to dispute that the Stand Your Ground law isn't working. I was quoting the stats I had when I lived in Florida that Stand Your Ground was used and passed.

The "Stand Your Ground" law is so not working that what? 14 other states are enacting them?

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At least 14 states have revised their laws to ensure that people don?t have to retreat from an attacker. Those states are: Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee and Texas, according to the NRA.
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I honestly think it's kind of sad that you feel the best way to deal with a bad situation is to go out in to a parking lot and pull a gun on somebody at some point during a night of drinking. No gun was required. Declining to go outside, or if need be calling the police would have ended the situation. That you can't see this is amazing to me.
I'm not emotionally invested in this thread, no do I have to be right that I have to use personal opinions to make my statement. The OP asked, do you have to use a gun if you pull it out. I answered it. Simple. No need to go off the tangent.

I'm off for my night, but there's one thing I'd rather rely on in this world.

"I'd rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6", any day of the week.
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