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Old 07-09-2011, 03:50 AM  
kane
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Originally Posted by DamianJ View Post
Fiddy people thinking an IP address is a person



I'd rather have neither. Neither work. When France introduced 3 strikes, piracy increased. Citation: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/P...kes-Law-107320
Do we know for sure that this is in response to this law? No we don't. Piracy has increased no matter what. The MPAA and RIAA have sued thousands of people and some of those cases have made big headlines and yet piracy increases. I don't think it is out of spite, I think people just assume they won't get caught, or they don't pay attention to the news and even know that these guys are going after pirates.

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I don't think it is right to have the MPAA demand your bandwidth is throttled because *they* say so.
Again, I don't know the logistics, but it seems fair to me that if you get multiple warnings and are still doing it, throttling your bandwidth is reasonable.

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I don't think having people that don't understand you can hack secure wifi connection in 2 hours or spoof an IP listening to appeals is good.

I think it's a huge waste of time and money and will achieve nothing.



There are no stats, I know I could hack yours in 2 hours though. So if I wanted to fuck your shit up, what's to stop me?
well, I personally don't have WiFi. But aside from me as you say don't know the hard and fast numbers but do you really, honestly, think there are large numbers of people out there hacking into WiFi connections so they can download a copy of Transformers 3? They could go to Starbucks or McDonalds or maybe even the library and use their WiFi to do the same thing without having to hack into it.

I feel that there are a lot of dumb people out there who might not know that downloading a movie or music is illegal, but those who are smart enough to hack into a WiFi connection know they are breaking the law. If they are going to go to that kind of trouble they are likely looking to steal my identity or access my bank accounts. They probably aren't doing it so they can download the new Britney Spears record.

I can see a situation where a guy is sitting in his house and can access a neighbor's WiFi and hacks into it (or just uses it if it is unsecured) to download, but I still think those cases are few and far between.



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How about the ISPs tell the RIAA and MPAA to fuck off?

How about they realise this 'fight' against piracy has achieved the same as the war on drugs. Nothing. More drug use. More piracy.

Go after the uploaders, not the downloaders.
Maybe the MPAA played hardball. They say to Comcast: "If you don't work with us on this, we won't give you any of our services for your subscribers and they will leave your ass and flock to someone who will."

I wasn't there. I don't know what the agreement between them is, but I would assume the ISPs are getting something in return.

By default many downloaders are also uploaders. When you download via torrent you are also sharing the file you are downloading. I would guess many people leave those files open to seed when they are done as well.

You want to go after uploaders, but so far you have shot down every technique potentially used to do so. How do you propose they do this?
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