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Originally Posted by kane
Do we know for sure that this is in response to this law? No we don't. Piracy has increased no matter what.
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Right, so whatever is being done isn't working. So, something else needs to be done. Cool. Agreement.
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Originally Posted by kane
Again, I don't know the logistics, but it seems fair to me that if you get multiple warnings and are still doing it, throttling your bandwidth is reasonable.
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Not without proof and judicial process. None of which are on the table here.
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Originally Posted by kane
well, I personally don't have WiFi. But aside from me as you say don't know the hard and fast numbers but do you really, honestly, think there are large numbers of people out there hacking into WiFi connections so they can download a copy of Transformers 3? They could go to Starbucks or McDonalds or maybe even the library and use their WiFi to do the same thing without having to hack into it.
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So, the Macdonalds or the library or Starbucks would get throttled. Brilliant!
Doesn't matter how many people ARE doing it. It is possible. It is, in fact, facile. With free tools online. As is spoofing and IP.
Therefore, there will *always* be reasonable doubt. And no actual proof. Always.
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Originally Posted by kane
I can see a situation where a guy is sitting in his house and can access a neighbor's WiFi and hacks into it (or just uses it if it is unsecured) to download, but I still think those cases are few and far between.
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You only need one case for it to stand up in court though, don't you.
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Originally Posted by kane
I wasn't there. I don't know what the agreement between them is, but I would assume the ISPs are getting something in return.
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Read up on it before coming to an opinion. The ISPs fought tooth and nail to NOT do this.
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By default many downloaders are also uploaders.
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Yes, yes technically on their shitty little upstreams. I think you knew I meant the active groups that grab the content and upload it in the first place. The initial seeders. There really aren't very many hugely active.
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Originally Posted by kane
You want to go after uploaders, but so far you have shot down every technique potentially used to do so. How do you propose they do this?
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They use the *law* to find *proof* that someone is wholesale stealing and uploading pirated content. They get an IP address > physical address > they go there > they have a warrant and seize all computer equipment > they search the hard drives > they find *proof* a crime has happened > the perp is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
You know, like with other crimes. Research, evidence, judge jury, prosecution. That seems to work for other things...
All this is moot really anyway. If it was 6 years ago, maybe. But use of torrents for wares is so old now. The file lockers and illegal tubes are the problem. Not torrents. I bet you a gajamillion dollar pounds that if there was a magic wand and torrents vanished overnight sales of porn would not be altered one jot.