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Old 07-26-2011, 08:52 PM  
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
And I'm sad to say that not only do I know a lot of people who are DELIBERATELY living on the dole...I am also ashamed and embarrassed to admit that I have members of my own family doing the same goddamn thing!

It's all kinda fucked up. And I know that there are lots of people out there who DO really need assistance. But I personally don't know them.

I have piece of shit family members who haven't done anything in over ten years. One female in my family has 3 kids, lives in a govt. housing project, gets a check from the govt. to live on, utilities are included in her apartment as well as furnishings, she gets food stamps...and works as a waitress at a local bar for under the table pay and tips.

She will NOT get a legit job that goes on the books because if she did she would lose all the free shit from the govt.

I know a lot of people who are doing the same thing with unemployment benefits. One of the guys I know has been on unemployment for about 3 months now...he isn't even TRYING to find a job. He collects that check and goes and works the flea market on the weekend.

I know I've seen a LOT of this kind of thing both here in Vegas, with people I know in South Carolina where I used to live, and in Florida where my family is. So I'm thinking it's the same everywhere.

I honestly believe that a lot of folks could get work...but just will not. And no, I don't mean they can go out and get a great paying job. But they could WORK for a living if they wanted to. But they have no need to. The govt. has them under control with what I call "welfare".

It's helping to bankrupt our economy in SO many ways and destroying the fiber of our nation as well as screwing people who legitimately NEED help.


i am going to do something i rarely do and that is to come to the defense of the govt..

a big part of the problem is that govt workers that give the thumbs up or thumbs down to extending some benefits just dont have the heart, will power, or intelligence to see past the bullshit..

in my city there is an experiment taking place..

my city has built a $50 million dollar housing project that is privately managed..

this project is a mix of subsidized housing, free housing, and low cost rentals..

if you trash your place, you are kicked out of the program forever..

if you dont pay your rent on time, you are kicked out of the program forever..

i dont know what happens if you are low cost rental and do either of the two aforementioned, but i suspect you will be blacklisted..

everyone is hoping that by privatizing the housing programs, the emotional element will be taken out, but that remains to be seen...

my point is that i believe and support in giving a mad a hand up, but i dont support gining a hand out..

if a person doesnt want to improve their life and is just looking for a free handout paid for by the taxpayers then they should be left to deal with the same problems that most americans have to deal with..

and that is that they end up homeless..

if people die because they dont want to contribute, then so be it..

it sad for the kids that are brought into this world by no choice of their own..

maybe we can find a solution for them, but i have no compassion for someone who shits out kids knowing they will be unable to support them and rely on the govt to fix their problems..

my brother taught school for two years in low income school districts while he was getting his masters and he was amazed and diseheartened by all the kids that he taught that were told by their single parents that they were worthless and would end up just like their deadbeat fathers...

their single parents had no desire for their children to be better than they were and basically had no desire to learn..

as soon as he finished his masters he quite and moved on to corporate life..

those kids were a lost cause and no matter how much money was thrown at the problem, those attitudes could not be changed..

at some point we as a people must understand that we need to cut our loses and accept the fact that some cannot be saved and move on to the ones that can be saved..

at some point we, as a society, need to realize that spending $20 million dollars to help one child make it is not worth the cost and that if we are to make forward progress, then some people are not going to make it with or without help....






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